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Old 02-13-2017, 09:53 PM   #1
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Summer is coming right...?

OK, we got about 2 feet of snow today, I want to think of something positive. So, help me pick my next summer tires, please?

Last set I ran were MPSS. I loved the grip, but the noise level was fucking horrible and they rode a little rough. Above 25 degrees C they rode fine, but with an average year round temp of 7.5 degrees C, I'll be moving to something else. I'd like to stay close to that grip level, but something a touch quieter and more forgiving. I'm thinking DW, but I'm not sure what's new on the market. Any suggestions?

Oh, and purpose will be aggressive commuting...
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:44 PM   #2
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Pilot sport a/s 3 +
Best all seasons money can buy and i think it would be perfect for you.
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I agree completely with @MaudDib, if you're willing to drop down to an ultra high performance all-season tire, the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ is about as good as it gets.

If you're looking for a more direct comparison to the Pilot Super Sport and run an 18" wheel (tire sizes are still very limited), you may want to look at the new Pilot Sport 4s. It may not directly address your issue with ride comfort, but should be superior to the Pilot Super Sport in virtually every way. I'm a Michelin fan-boy, so I had to throw it out there.

Good luck and I hope this helps!

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Old 02-13-2017, 11:06 PM   #4
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My friend loves the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 2 on his G37. They're much more affordable than the PSS, and grippy enough for his aggressive driving. I've read the sidewalls can be a bit flexy on hot weather but that may not be a problem for you. Can't speak for How quiet they are though. According to the reviews on Tire Rack they may be slightly louder than the PSSs, but then again the PSSs are rated as being pretty good.

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You can try the BF Goodrich g-Force Sport Comp or g-Force Comp A/S. Also, pretty affordable. Some people here have these and seem pretty happy with them
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^Was gonna suggest those. I've heard very good things from the people who own them.

I'm picking up some new daily/summer wheels this weekend, and will probably be going with Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s as they've received great reviews and a Bridgestone rep at a track day last year did a good job of selling me on them. If it hadn't been for that, I'd likely have been buying g-Force Sport Comps.
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Keep the PSS and get a catback!
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but then again the PSSs are rated as being pretty good.
They were really good when they started off. But over time they just seemed to get noisier and noisier.
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They were really good when they started off. But over time they just seemed to get noisier and noisier.
Ah okay, maybe most people have reviewed them early in their cycle. Mine only have 8k on them and good so far .
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Pilot sport a/s 3 +
Best all seasons money can buy and i think it would be perfect for you.
That's an interesting idea. I didn't know they had improved over the 3. Looking at the tirerack testing it looks like the Pirelli are a bit cheaper, and a better overall choice, but thank you for the suggestion. I think this might be what I go with.
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Ah okay, maybe most people have reviewed them early in their cycle. Mine only have 8k on them and good so far .
You're in a much warmer climate as well. On our really hot days, 35 deg C or maybe a little higher, they're much better. But those days are pretty rare.
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I'm thinking DW, but I'm not sure what's new on the market. Any suggestions?

Oh, and purpose will be aggressive commuting...


The successor to the DW is the ExtremeContact Sport, which is supposed to be released this month. As good as the DW I had were, if these are at least the same then they'd be a great option for cooler and/or wet weather up there.
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The successor to the DW is the ExtremeContact Sport, which is supposed to be released this month. As good as the DW I had were, if these are at least the same then they'd be a great option for cooler and/or wet weather up there.
Yeah, after looking around I was ready to buy today but I saw those on tirerack and I think I'll wait for them to test it first.

Thanks for the heads up and the review on the DW's.
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I'd say Continental DW or the new Sport. DW is probably the best daily driver tire I've driven on thus far - absolute confidence inspiring with wet grip that feels as good as its dry grip, which is well beyond the stock tires. The sidewalls are noticeable less stiff compared to Michelins, but even though the response is not as quick because of that, the overall handling is much more improved and quite nice once you get the hang of how it really works (you can be extremely quick with rotation/yaw on these tires once you get the feel for them.)

When you drive the FR-S hard in a canyon/backroad on the DW's what immediately comes to mind is its extreme stability in fast, tight turns - it simply never feels upset. Most other tires with stiffer sidewalls are more darty/twitchy in fast, tight turns...especially if the road is not smooth. The DW's are like riding in a super stable band of grip...dry or wet doesn't matter. It's not a mushy tire in the least, but it doesn't have the super instant linear responsiveness of those stiff sidewalled tires. What it allows you to do though is feel so comfortable with the handling beyond the level of those stiff walled tires, where they start feeling twitchy and nervous - the DW is completely smooth and composed when pushing hard and fast. That combined with its wet/dry performance being so equal in level is why it's the most awesome DD tire I've driven on so far.

FYI, the setup I'm running on my FR-S is 205/45-17 Continental DW's on lightweight 17x7.5 +40mm Enkei Fujin's on stock suspension... feels better in basically every aspect compared to the previous 215/45-17 Kumho XS on ultralight 17x8 +36mm Kosei K4R.
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