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Old 02-20-2020, 07:28 AM   #15
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I run my turbo with no BOV, runs great and the turbo doesn't seem to be damaged in any regard.

What tuning platform are you using? Even for a daily driver, I'd get some upgraded injectors. The scaling is easy and it adds a lot of safety. You will not regret it!

Along with your tuning platform (which is your most important supporting mod) have you contemplated an upgraded tire choice? Life isn't fun when you just spin as boost hits
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You might as well throw a Killer B oil pickup in when you have the pan off
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While you have the pan off and shopping buy a windage tray
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What tuning platform are you using? Even for a daily driver, I'd get some upgraded injectors. The scaling is easy and it adds a lot of safety. You will not regret it!

Along with your tuning platform (which is your most important supporting mod) have you contemplated an upgraded tire choice? Life isn't fun when you just spin as boost hits
I'm using OFT for tuning. As for tires, I have some Firehawk Indy 500's from last year so hopefully they'll be able to hold up.

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Oil cooler and oil temp gauge should be stock requirements for any of these cars getting abuse. Afr gauge isn't a bad addition and neither is either blanket or preferably ceramic coating.

What's your opinion on oil pressure gauge? necessary? I would already have a boost gauge, AFR gauge and an oil temp gauge.

and as far as gauges go, which ones are you guys running out of curiosity? and where do you have them located?
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What's your opinion on oil pressure gauge? necessary? I would already have a boost gauge, AFR gauge and an oil temp gauge.

and as far as gauges go, which ones are you guys running out of curiosity? and where do you have them located?
Oil temperature and pressure are linked, so some just go with temperature, but I have both just in case I lose pressure suddenly.

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Oil temperature and pressure are linked, so some just go with temperature, but I have both just in case I lose pressure suddenly.

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That looks really tidy, mind sending me a link?
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That looks really tidy, mind sending me a link?
Thanks. Quality wasn’t amazing. I could have done a similar job myself with some bondo, PVC pieces and paint. The 60mm vent gauge pod is quality.

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Oil temperature and pressure are linked, so some just go with temperature, but I have both just in case I lose pressure suddenly.

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A pressure gauge does nothing to help mitigate this, and the havok it'll wreak.

How often do you look at your gauges while driving hard?
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A pressure gauge does nothing to help mitigate this, and the havok it'll wreak.

How often do you look at your gauges while driving hard?
That’s the typical argument against needing it, which is probably true, but I like the idea of having it. I don’t check it often during aggressive driving, but I do check it often when not aggressive driving. If oil loss was rapid then it would probably be useless like you are saying, but I could imagine someone getting a rock through their oil cooler or something resulting in loss at a rate that could be caught. The dummy light could work for that too I guess; manufacturers put it there at an expense for a reason. I know your opinion already on heavier weight oil, but I suppose someone with a different opinion could also use the pressure gauge to fine tune oil weight for their needs. Unnecessary for the op, but just saying.
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I should add that my aggressive driving stints around town or through some turns in the canyons are much shorter than your track sessions, so the intervals between checking my gauges are likely not as long as yours.
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The dummy light only activates around 2 psi or maybe it was 4 psi? Regardless its so low that it just about makes it pointless. As for the pressure on a gauge debate. Its personal preference. I'd rather have it. And the question of seeing it while going hard...

One could argue why run a boost gauge then? Who's looking at that gauge while driving hard? I run a Cravenspeed steering wheel mounted dash pod. I only run the left cup as it covers the mechanical speedometer (who looks at that one compared to the digital one in the center?) and use a 60mm Depo Racing 2 in 1 gauge. It reads boost with a needle display and displays oil pressure on an led display.

I figure if pressure drops suddenly the fast swing of the numbers will catch my attention if I'm on it hard.

But to each their own.
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The dummy light only activates around 2 psi or maybe it was 4 psi? Regardless its so low that it just about makes it pointless. As for the pressure on a gauge debate. Its personal preference. I'd rather have it. And the question of seeing it while going hard...

One could argue why run a boost gauge then? Who's looking at that gauge while driving hard? I run a Cravenspeed steering wheel mounted dash pod. I only run the left cup as it covers the mechanical speedometer (who looks at that one compared to the digital one in the center?) and use a 60mm Depo Racing 2 in 1 gauge. It reads boost with a needle display and displays oil pressure on an led display.

I figure if pressure drops suddenly the fast swing of the numbers will catch my attention if I'm on it hard.

But to each their own.

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If there is a 1 in 10 chance you will catch it and potentially save your engine, and the total cost outlay is like 60 bucks and an hour of install, its a pretty significant no brainer to me.

anyone boosting an NA engine should be glancing at their gauges quite frequently. just as frequent as all their other gauges (rpm, speed, temp etc).
if these cars were boosted from factory, then yes, doing so would be considered overkill, but with the significant change boost brings, its always a good idea to pay attention to your sensors. especially when driving hard.

Consider if the oil pan cracked around the weld for the return line due to heat stress from the welding process, or the RTV you used to put the sump back on was not up to the job/you didnt clean the surfaces properly?

a slowly dropping oil level like this will lead to the pickup sucking up the occasional bubble of air before running dry. your needles going to go apeshit. you are going to see it in the corner of your eye.

if you are driving so hard that the peripheral awareness of your gauges is too much of a distraction, you are driving far too hard for far too long for it to be considered safe on public roads and you probably deserve to lose your license.
if you are on a track (OP has specifically stated that he wont be tracking it) then you have even more time on straights to check your gauges and monitoring pressure and temp is way more important in track conditions.
from experience, if you spin a bearing on a track you may not notice the knock/sound until you come off the throttle at the end of the run.
if you had a pressure gauge you would immediately notice the loss in oil pressure. you might save your crank and thus essentially save the short block from a write off. you might even get away with only needing to replace the bearing (and obviously the cleanup work etc).
IMO, spending an extra few hundred dollars to monitor everything rather than just boost is a no brainer. in the off situation thats 1 in 10 that it might save your engine, its still hella worth for the outlay, especially when you are considering spending upwards of 5k+ on a turbo kit.

plus it looks mad.

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Didn't know the dummy light turns on at that low of a PSI. My dummy light always flickers when I brake (RPM drops for a split second) and sometimes it will turn on solid. I've left my car on to idle for about 10 minutes with the light fully on and my engine is still running fine..I'm boosted as well. I'm thinking my oil pressure sender switch is broken.
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That’s the typical argument against needing it, which is probably true, but I like the idea of having it. I don’t check it often during aggressive driving, but I do check it often when not aggressive driving. If oil loss was rapid then it would probably be useless like you are saying, but I could imagine someone getting a rock through their oil cooler or something resulting in loss at a rate that could be caught. The dummy light could work for that too I guess; manufacturers put it there at an expense for a reason. I know your opinion already on heavier weight oil, but I suppose someone with a different opinion could also use the pressure gauge to fine tune oil weight for their needs. Unnecessary for the op, but just saying.
csg is right gauge are useless, they are just for esthetic

unless you have an output from them and you hook them to the ecu and set up custom map against low pressure
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