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Old 07-02-2019, 03:03 PM   #15
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE call/text/chat with someone qualified about what you're feeling. Today sucks. But tomorrow might not. Only way to find out is to be there.
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Sorry for worrying everyone. I had a moment of weakness, I felt down and felt the need to reach out. I appreciate all the love and support, and even though I’m going through a rough time at the moment I won’t let it get to me like it did last night. I’ll just continue trying to make things better.


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Sorry for worrying everyone. I had a moment of weakness, I felt down and felt the need to reach out. I appreciate all the love and support, and even though I’m going through a rough time at the moment I won’t let it get to me like it did last night. I’ll just continue trying to make things better.


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Sorry for worrying everyone. I had a moment of weakness, I felt down and felt the need to reach out. I appreciate all the love and support, and even though I’m going through a rough time at the moment I won’t let it get to me like it did last night. I’ll just continue trying to make things better.
It's not weakness. Just gather those ways of asking for help and keep them handy. You just have to make it past the hard points.
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My father raised me to be very self-reliant, and I became that... to a fault. Now throughout most of my adult life, he's been telling me, "Don't be stupid... everybody needs help sometimes. When you need help, GET HELP!"


There is NO shame, nor weakness, in getting help when you need it. Get some help. Use those numbers Jsimon posted. Talk to folks who are positive influences on your life that you can actually see and hear in real life. Reach out to whomever you feel you've made some connections with and who have been positive and helpful to you here, if you wish... share contact info via PM.

Given how down you sounded, it might not be wise to just gloss over this. Talk to some folks to help make sure you don't get to that point, or worse, again.
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Hey man, a support system is the best thing you can have. In all too familiar with suicide. And if it wasn't for my best friend and his family I wouldn't be here today. I remember while I was in the Army, things went to shit. I had a slew of injuries that basically ruined a dream of serving my country. I had toxic ass leadership and no one to go to. The Chaplin was great but didn't do much for me. I remember seeing no way out. I had auditory hallucinations, nightmares, and severe depression and anxiety. After months of dealing with it, I found myself laying in bed texting my best friend telling him I was sorry. Then proceeded to make it for the stairs to leap off the top of my barracks. It sounded quick and painless. Thankfully his mom called my battalion command and someone stopped me before I could get out of my room. I'll never forget how I felt. I was embarrassed, angry, frightened, and disappointed in myself for letting down my fellow troops and family and friends. I got help from a counselor and proper therapy before being discharged. It still haunts me sometimes tbh. But I realized it's not the way. There's always someone to help you. Every now and then when I feel down, by buddy is the go to. It's hard but something as simple as venting can do a lot of good.
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My father raised me to be very self-reliant, and I became that... to a fault. Now throughout most of my adult life, he's been telling me, "Don't be stupid... everybody needs help sometimes. When you need help, GET HELP!"


There is NO shame, nor weakness, in getting help when you need it. Get some help. Use those numbers Jsimon posted. Talk to folks who are positive influences on your life that you can actually see and hear in real life. Reach out to whomever you feel you've made some connections with and who have been positive and helpful to you here, if you wish... share contact info via PM.

Given how down you sounded, it might not be wise to just gloss over this. Talk to some folks to help make sure you don't get to that point, or worse, again.


I talked to my girl. Sometimes it’s hard to express my self in words. Or what I’m going through. But she definitely helps me out.


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Hey man, a support system is the best thing you can have. In all too familiar with suicide. And if it wasn't for my best friend and his family I wouldn't be here today. I remember while I was in the Army, things went to shit. I had a slew of injuries that basically ruined a dream of serving my country. I had toxic ass leadership and no one to go to. The Chaplin was great but didn't do much for me. I remember seeing no way out. I had auditory hallucinations, nightmares, and severe depression and anxiety. After months of dealing with it, I found myself laying in bed texting my best friend telling him I was sorry. Then proceeded to make it for the stairs to leap off the top of my barracks. It sounded quick and painless. Thankfully his mom called my battalion command and someone stopped me before I could get out of my room. I'll never forget how I felt. I was embarrassed, angry, frightened, and disappointed in myself for letting down my fellow troops and family and friends. I got help from a counselor and proper therapy before being discharged. It still haunts me sometimes tbh. But I realized it's not the way. There's always someone to help you. Every now and then when I feel down, by buddy is the go to. It's hard but something as simple as venting can do a lot of good.


I agree... even if you don’t necessarily know how to vent about it. Just to speak on what’s bothering you or how you feel helps. Sometimes it’s so hard for me to express my emotions though. I just let them all build up and then I end of breaking. I gotta stop doing that though.


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That attitude is WHY so many people are unhappy. The OP STARTED with, basically, what he thought mattered most to him and going for it (being rich). Obviously, that didn't work out. If we all lived as if ourselves and our wants were the only things that mattered, the world would be an incredibly miserable place. What matters is the good we can do for others, and the gratitude we can express for what we DO have. That's where happiness lives.
I disagree totally. The only reason anyone wants to be rich is because society tells them it is important, when it is totally and completely meaningless. It is not a goal that comes from within, but one forced on people by an evil meaningless materialistic moronic useless society. Our society offers nearly nothing at all if you want to be truly happy.

Happiness and joy can only come from within. Everything else, including the fake high people get from "helping others," is totally false.

And I also disagree with your second point. If people took the time to make themselves better human beings first, rather than worry about what everyone else is doing and how they must "help" them, which really means they decide that other people are too stupid to take care of themselves so they must "need" to be told what to do, our world would be a better place.

Our society is already a miserable place, because far too many people think they are superior to everyone else and that must mean they have to "help" them, when the world would be much better if they minded their own damn business.

To prove the point, parts of Africa are in a really bad situation. We keep making it worse, because we keep giving them free materialistic garbage. No one can earn a living there, because why would anyone pay for anything when they can get it for free? This type of thinking is destroying everything.

Now if you mean, go volunteer, like at local food kitchens, or places that actually do positive things, then I'm wrong about your meanings. Far too many people would never actually take the time to do anything positive in this world, yet they still think they are "helping." Just avoid the American Red Cross. You won't find a more evil corporation posing as a "charity".

People absolutely need to get help for themselves. Depression is horrific, disgusting, and evil, and no one should face it alone.
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Hey man, a support system is the best thing you can have. In all too familiar with suicide. And if it wasn't for my best friend and his family I wouldn't be here today. I remember while I was in the Army, things went to shit. I had a slew of injuries that basically ruined a dream of serving my country. I had toxic ass leadership and no one to go to. The Chaplin was great but didn't do much for me. I remember seeing no way out. I had auditory hallucinations, nightmares, and severe depression and anxiety. After months of dealing with it, I found myself laying in bed texting my best friend telling him I was sorry. Then proceeded to make it for the stairs to leap off the top of my barracks. It sounded quick and painless. Thankfully his mom called my battalion command and someone stopped me before I could get out of my room. I'll never forget how I felt. I was embarrassed, angry, frightened, and disappointed in myself for letting down my fellow troops and family and friends. I got help from a counselor and proper therapy before being discharged. It still haunts me sometimes tbh. But I realized it's not the way. There's always someone to help you. Every now and then when I feel down, by buddy is the go to. It's hard but something as simple as venting can do a lot of good.
Hopefully your buddy doesn't have his own problems going that he needs to put on hold to help you with yours.
As the person who always gets to be, "The Rock", sometimes I feel like telling people, "I'm not equipped to help you. You need a professional counselor." but I fear that may put them over the edge. I'm glad they know they can rely on me, but it's emotionally draining being vested in everyone else's problems all the time, and having to back burner my own, of which luckily there are not that many.
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People dont get depressed because they are unhappy. They get depressed because their life lacks meaning. OP, I think you already figured this out since you said drugs and alcohol dont help, so you are already ahead of the majority.

Also, you might find this helpful reading:

https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life.../dp/0345816021
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Hopefully your buddy doesn't have his own problems going that he needs to put on hold to help you with yours.
As the person who always gets to be, "The Rock", sometimes I feel like telling people, "I'm not equipped to help you. You need a professional counselor." but I fear that may put them over the edge. I'm glad they know they can rely on me, but it's emotionally draining being vested in everyone else's problems all the time, and having to back burner my own, of which luckily there are not that many.
Well he let's me know his limits and I try not to turn him into "the rock." But it helps because he's in the military as well so we get the particular struggles that comes with the job. I've spent enough time at the VA to get the major problems fix lol (thankfully).
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