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Old 04-03-2018, 11:33 AM   #15
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Kyodo news is pretty mainstream, "respected" news in Japan, I'd say. It's kinda like the Associated Press, and whatever you might think about them, they don't typically just blow rumors about this kind of stuff willy-nilly. This looks relatively legit. If so, I'll have my money waiting! This would also murder 86 sales over the next couple years while people wait, I'd imagine. More displacement with same dynamics and still NA? That'd be amazing!
This is exactly why I call bullshit on these things. The people that know what they are talking about won't say. No matter how respected a news source they are they can still be mislead by bad sources.
To be clear it isn't the possibility of there being an engine change that I am calling bullshit. It is the fact that ANY news source can report it as truth at this point in time.
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This is exactly why I call bullshit on these things. The people that know what they are talking about won't say. No matter how respected a news source they are they can still be mislead by bad sources.
To be clear it isn't the possibility of there being an engine change that I am calling bullshit. It is the fact that ANY news source can report it as truth at this point in time.
Good point.
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Old 04-03-2018, 11:51 AM   #17
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From a MotorTrend article: "The Ascent is the first to get Subaru’s new 2.4-liter direct-injection turbocharged flat-four engine, which will show up in other future models. The horizontally opposed Subaru Boxer engine generates 260 horsepower and 277 lb-ft of torque." http://www.motortrend.com/cars/subar...-drive-review/


I wonder if they are contemplating this new powerplant?
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Kyodo news is pretty mainstream, "respected" news in Japan, I'd say. It's kinda like the Associated Press, and whatever you might think about them, they don't typically just blow rumors about this kind of stuff willy-nilly. This looks relatively legit. If so, I'll have my money waiting! This would also murder 86 sales over the next couple years while people wait, I'd imagine. More displacement with same dynamics and still NA? That'd be amazing!
Nope. Chuck Testa
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Article is 100% accurate. There is already a prototype with this engine running around Japan.

Someone spied it late one night, stopped the driver and talked to them. The driver begged him not to take a photo, but the guy snuck one anyway. I won't tell you his name to hide his identity, but this is 100% legit! See the hood and grill? There is something new and exciting lurking under there!


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Article is 100% accurate. There is already a prototype with this engine running around Japan.

Someone spied it late one night, stopped the driver and talked to them. The driver begged him not to take a photo, but the guys snuck one anyway. I won't tell you his name to hide his identity, but this is 100% legit! See the hood and grill? There is something new and exciting lurking under there!




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They just needed something to write about. By 21 they'll probably be electric. Lol
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............Someone spied it late one night, stopped the driver and talked to them.
Yep, several people here in the PNW have seen that also .......


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Ok, guys. Some more information on the next gen 86:




Maybe a late April's fool joke?
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Bullshit is bullshit no matter what the original language it was written in.
For example: いやらしい still bullshit lol
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Nope. Chuck Testa
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hey look at what Honda did from AP1 to AP2...an increase in displacement would really be the only option if they stay NA as I doubt Toyota/Subaru would try to incorporate something like HCCI into a boxer. we'll see :>
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hey look at what Honda did from AP1 to AP2...an increase in displacement would really be the only option if they stay NA as I doubt Toyota/Subaru would try to incorporate something like HCCI into a boxer. we'll see :>
I think so as well it would be a natural fit

The only thing is that in certain markets an engine over 2L attracts a lot more import tax. So they may not go that route.
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I think so as well it would be a natural fit

The only thing is that in certain markets an engine over 2L attracts a lot more import tax. So they may not go that route.
..displacement tax concerns are perhaps legitimate, but at the same time considering most of the twins ended up in western countries without displacement taxes, perhaps this isn't as big of a concern.

Plus, if ya live in say Japan, going from the 1.5-2.0 L bracket to 2.0-2.5 L is only an extra 6,000 yen (or about $60 USD) per year, so I don't think that is a real hurdle
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Ok, guys. Some more information on the next gen 86:




Maybe a late April's fool joke?
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