SCCA Solo D Street discussion

[renfield90]

Someone had to start it.

Have fun boys and girls. Shouldn't be any reason why one of you can't bring a jacket home next year.

When I have a free moment I'll try to compile all the good tidbits from the CS thread into this post so people have a single place to look.

[Locust]

LMAO!

[MrFisty]

had to go to the other thread to see what this is about. This is awesome. We really should not have been competing with STI's.


EDIT:

I'm not good with autox rules and classification. Will this effect us in terms of going into STX when we start adding basic mods? Will we get a different class there, as well?

[cjd]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

had to go to the other thread to see what this is about. This is awesome. We really should not have been competing with STI's.


EDIT:

I'm not good with autox rules and classification. Will this effect us in terms of going into STX when we start adding basic mods? Will we get a different class there, as well?

Not likely. Where would it go? My car raw timed STR last weekend (though not me driving...) - it appears to be correctly classed in STX.

[MrFisty]

Originally Posted by cjd

Not likely. Where would it go? My car raw timed STR last weekend (though not me driving...) - it appears to be correctly classed in STX.

Keep in mind that I am a casual autocrosser with just enough knowledge to show up and tell them I'm C class and which components start putting us in STX. I am not aware of other ST classes.

Also, I don't understand what you're saying with the bolded statement.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

Keep in mind that I am a casual autocrosser with just enough knowledge to show up and tell them I'm C class and which components start putting us in STX. I am not aware of other ST classes.

Also, I don't understand what you're saying with the bolded statement.

Fastest raw time (what shows up on the clock at the end of your run) my car put down was a 52.407, fastest STR was a 52.746 - and STR should be faster (.841 vs .836 for PAX). Granted, that's a very small margin, but there it is. For reference, the fastest CS run was 52.647, and the top 20 was very heavily skewed to ES... It's certainly not typical results, but it happens.

[renfield90]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

Keep in mind that I am a casual autocrosser with just enough knowledge to show up and tell them I'm C class and which components start putting us in STX. I am not aware of other ST classes.

Also, I don't understand what you're saying with the bolded statement.

Street, Street Touring, Street Prepared, etc. are preparation levels.

Within each preparation level are different classes intended to group together cars with similar performance level for that given preparation level.

So in Street you have AS-HS as well as SS. In Street Touring you have STF, STS, STX, STR, STU. Every class within a preparation level has the same list of allowed mods, with some minor exceptions (like varying wheel/tire widths and diff rules depending on ST class).

[TurtleFace]

Originally Posted by cjd

Fastest raw time (what shows up on the clock at the end of your run) my car put down was a 52.407, fastest STR was a 52.746 - and STR should be faster (.841 vs .836 for PAX). Granted, that's a very small margin, but there it is. For reference, the fastest CS run was 52.647, and the top 20 was very heavily skewed to ES... It's certainly not typical results, but it happens.

Sounds like that guy in CS was killing it; I'll stick with my stock car if it's only .25s slower.

[nico_rsx]

There is no mention of 2017. Does this mean they will be in CS?
I hope not, I want to buy a 2017 BRZ this spring.

[Locust]

Originally Posted by nico_rsx

There is no mention of 2017. Does this mean they will be in CS?
I hope not, I want to buy a 2017 BRZ this spring.

Odds are very likely 2017 BRZ/FR-S will be in CS.

[TEAMETR]

Not only are (Non TRD) twins/BRZ moving to DS but a whole shit load of FS cars are moving as well. I just ran our last event with a 2016 Mustang 4cyl turbo EcoBoost plus performance package in FS this car next year will be moving to DS with a good driver times were 4 seconds faster than the 2 D Street mini's and FRS/BRZ. I was surprised to see this car run so well. It also had fastest times against 8 other FS cars all V8's.

[AndrewMcG]

Originally Posted by TEAMETR

Not only are (Non TRD) twins/BRZ moving to DS but a whole shit load of FS cars are moving as well. I just ran our last event with a 2016 Mustang 4cyl turbo EcoBoost plus performance package in FS this car next year will be moving to DS with a good driver times were 4 seconds faster than the 2 D Street mini's and FRS/BRZ. I was surprised to see this car run so well. It also had fastest times against 8 other FS cars all V8's.

Sorry, but there is no helpful data there at all. Looking at nationals results, the fastest 4cyl. pony car also had a better driver than DS or CS had, Mark Scroggs. CS ran in the wet one day and the fastest twin ended up 3.5 seconds behind Scroggs. DS had dry weather and ended up 2.2 seconds behind Scroggs. This is over 2 days. Its not nearly as bad as you say, and will just like every other class, be considered course dependent. The twins will still do fine in DS against these 4 cylinder pony cars.


DS 121.0
FS 118.8
CS 122.3(wet)

[G_Ride]

Originally Posted by AndrewMcG

Sorry, but there is no helpful data there at all. Looking at nationals results, the fastest 4cyl. pony car also had a better driver than DS or CS had, Mark Scroggs. CS ran in the wet one day and the fastest twin ended up 3.5 seconds behind Scroggs. DS had dry weather and ended up 2.2 seconds behind Scroggs. This is over 2 days. Its not nearly as bad as you say, and will just like every other class, be considered course dependent. The twins will still do fine in DS against these 4 cylinder pony cars.


DS 121.0
FS 118.8
CS 122.3(wet)

I agree with you. Just car vs car, it will be course dependent.

I'm also in Mark's region and he'll be in DS with the Camaro turbo. It should be an interesting year

[DaWorstPlaya]

Sounds like the 13-16 twins moving to DS is a done deal. From my understanding the Turbo Mustang and Camaro don't have good gearing in 2nd which could probably hurt them.