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WingsofWar · 04-06-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by speedy07

Instead of partnering with Subaru, why didn't Toyota just make the gt-86, fr-s , with the Toyota JZ engines?

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Originally Posted by just86

toyota partner with subaru because they wanted to change the scion image

S2kphile · 04-06-2012, 02:19 PM

Because you have to overnight parts from JAPAN. lulz
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thDAVISor · 04-06-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by S2kphile

Because you have to overnight parts from JAPAN. lulz
[u2b]xKXZT70gwNg[/u2b]

Lol you win.

tripjammer · 04-06-2012, 03:23 PM

The boxer motors are pimp y'all! Just wait till you get to know it! In all due time we will get a turbo 2.0 motor. It will happen....

fatoni · 04-06-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tlp

They wanted to build a car with the lowest centre of gravity possible.

The boxer engine allows them to do this.

no it doesnt

Tainen · 04-06-2012, 04:06 PM

You know... we can overnight parts from Japan for flat 4 motors, too.

Linseal · 04-06-2012, 04:27 PM

They could have used the 2.5L 180HP tC engine. Just needs a little tweaking to bump it to 200

. or the Lexus IS 250 v6, that would have been nice.

Xdragonxb0i · 04-06-2012, 05:29 PM

I believe Toyota has some stakes in Subaru. So economically it only make to team up to build a car.

Sasquachulator · 04-06-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Linseal

They could have used the 2.5L 180HP tC engine. Just needs a little tweaking to bump it to 200

. or the Lexus IS 250 v6, that would have been nice.

They could but they should and would not.

You ever drive that engine? It's a lazy engine.....

And its actually a CAMRY engine, not a tC engine

But im bias since my car has the fun as hell rev to 8400rpm 2zzge.....

Guff · 04-06-2012, 06:39 PM

Toyota wanted something Lightweight, Affordable, and NA.

Putting a JZ would have broken all three of those rules.

1660 · 04-06-2012, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedy07

Instead of partnering with Subaru, why didn't Toyota just make the gt-86, fr-s , with the Toyota JZ engines?

My understanding is that Subaru went to Toyota looking for a joint venture. They pitched several ideas and the one that stuck was for a two door sport coupe. Subaru thought that it would be a slam dunk, but the Toyota engineers determined the design and Subaru did most of the engineering work. The Subaru engineers had to cow-tow to the Toyota engineers and they resented that but had no choice since the money came from Toyota.

old greg · 04-06-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 1660

My understanding is that Subaru went to Toyota looking for a joint venture. They pitched several ideas and the one that stuck was for a two door sport coupe.

You are mistaken.

Toyota pitched the sports car and Subaru didn't want to do it. Toyota chopped up a Subaru Legacy and made a proof-of-concept mule and used it to convince Subaru.

yayforaddison · 04-06-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by S2kphile

Because you have to overnight parts from JAPAN. lulz
[u2b]xKXZT70gwNg[/u2b]

A little off topic, but I just realized this was the 2JZ-GE and not the 2JZ-GTE right?

Mehhhh

1660 · 04-07-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by old greg

You are mistaken.

Toyota pitched the sports car and Subaru didn't want to do it. Toyota chopped up a Subaru Legacy and made a proof-of-concept mule and used it to convince Subaru.

I don't think so...

After Toyota had gain aprox. 17% of Fuji Heavy Industries, Subaru went to Toyota. They fought because Toyota wanted RWD and Subaru wanted AWD. Since Toyota provided the money, Subaru had to give in.

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