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Old 09-25-2018, 12:16 AM   #15
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at least change the red FR-S on the top banner of the website. Update it to something like this:
I think the red FRS is just fine where it is.
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Even better, they keep the most important 86 show car up there too. I'll buy one of those shooting brake's if they ever have the guts to produce it.
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Even better, they keep the most important 86 show car up there too. I'll buy one of those shooting brake's if they ever have the guts to produce it.
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because it is awesome. And whatever I can do to make them produce more 2 door hatchbacks I will. The death of the 2 door hatchback is the biggest automotive tragedy ever.
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because it is awesome. And whatever I can do to make them produce more 2 door hatchbacks I will. The death of the 2 door hatchback is the biggest automotive tragedy ever.
Buy a Supra

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That Zupra is so weird.

I've got a buddy who's got 310k miles on a highly modded and daily-driven Mk.3 Supra. He's been hot to buy the Mk.5 since it was first announced. Now that the specs and first reviews are out he hates it. He's about fifty. For him it's not about the money but the excitement of Toyota. I was never in the market but it seems to me they've alienated a lot of die-hard Toyota fans. Whatever. Home page looks better. Interested to see how that partnership develops and what it means for the next-gen 86/BRZ.
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That Zupra is so weird.

I've got a buddy who's got 310k miles on a highly modded and daily-driven Mk.3 Supra. He's been hot to buy the Mk.5 since it was first announced. Now that the specs and first reviews are out he hates it. He's about fifty. For him it's not about the money but the excitement of Toyota. I was never in the market but it seems to me they've alienated a lot of die-hard Toyota fans. Whatever. Home page looks better. Interested to see how that partnership develops and what it means for the next-gen 86/BRZ.
I think Toyota doesn't know how to make good sports cars and they've done a stroke of genius by paying people that do know how to make fun cars to make cars for them, just like they paid Yamaha and Lotus in the past. The Zupra is a small BMW M-hatch, coincidentally BMW made the last great 2-door RWD hatchback and I am seriously looking at the non-M clownshoes as a ~$10k fun car.

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I think Toyota doesn't know how to make good sports cars and they've done a stroke of genius by paying people that do know how to make fun cars to make cars for them, just like they paid Yamaha and Lotus in the past. The Zupra is a small BMW M-hatch, coincidentally BMW made the last great 2-door RWD hatchback and I am seriously looking at the non-M clownshoes as a ~$10k fun car.

Yeah. You're right. It sounds like it's just not economically viable for manufacturers to spend money developing a low-volume sport car anymore. And you know people will see it as stale after four years no matter how good it is. And there are far more armchair critics and internet pundits than actual buyers. Many of these cars may have never existed without co-development. I'm fine with it as I see the BMW partnership as having a lot to offer. They do great inline-six engines, gearboxes, and suspension. But I can see where my buddy is coming from too. He wants to see Toyota's handiwork on some of the performance parts, not just the skin. And even though he could afford it I think the idea of taking a Toyota to a BMW dealer for service really rubs him raw. He's also pretty set in his ways. His Mk.3 is really more of a GT by modern standards. I think he would miss his reclining seats and his targa top. So not entirely the car's fault. I love most of the styling apart from that huge rear duck-tail spoiler, and I'm doing my best to talk him into one so I can ride in it. But we'll see.
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I think Toyota doesn't know how to make good sports cars and they've done a stroke of genius by paying people that do know how to make fun cars to make cars for them, just like they paid Yamaha and Lotus in the past. The Zupra is a small BMW M-hatch, coincidentally BMW made the last great 2-door RWD hatchback and I am seriously looking at the non-M clownshoes as a ~$10k fun car.

This version is so incredibly sexy in real life in blue. The lines come together perfectly, especially the rear. I wanted this car so badly, and if I found a decent rust free example I might decide I need a daily driver with an actual interior.

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I was tempted right until the C8 was announced, and then it became obvious the car is just too expensive.
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