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Old 06-29-2018, 01:23 PM   #15
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Congrats on the new ride. Hope you will stick around the forum!

What kind of exhaust were you looking at? My buddy has a 2016 Golf R and I always tell him he should get an exhaust for it, but he's happy with the stock exhaust.
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:30 PM   #16
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Traded the FR-S for a 2018 GTI.

Some pics of the old and the new.

Funny, I sold my 2016 GTI for my FRS.
The level of refinement is so much nicer on the GTI, I miss it occasionally, but not as much as the three TDI's I had before it.
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Congrats on the new ride. Hope you will stick around the forum!

What kind of exhaust were you looking at? My buddy has a 2016 Golf R and I always tell him he should get an exhaust for it, but he's happy with the stock exhaust.


haven't thought that far ahead yet.
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:32 PM   #18
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I had a 2009 GTI that I traded for the BRZ and haven't looked back. I had been a VW guy since 1985. I lived with the little issues like O2 sensors throwing a CEL. But my MKV had intake manifold issues and later clutch problems. That was the end for me. It's one car I would consider getting a platinum 100k extended warranty. But when one is older, time is too precious to be spent fixing broken shit on cars.

They are great freeway cruisers but it was easy to find suspension limits in spirited suburban driving in the GTI. Something I have yet to do in my BRZ.
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:43 PM   #19
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My wife has a 2016 Focus ST which I love, but didn't want to get the same car, so I started looking into the GTI (always liked them)
Kind of chuckled at this just because the GTI is very similar on paper to the FoST.

FWD hot hatch, mid 200hp range, turbocharged, etc etc

My wife had a '13 ST for about 4yrs before getting rid of it. GTI has always been a contender to me because it's just such a good balance of everything you could want from a daily driver.
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The FR-S was paid off, so I wanted to trade it in while it still had decent value.
How does the math on that work? It seems like continuing to drive the car and get use out of it without a payment for another couple of years would carry a higher value than the trade-in value applied against a new car.

I know if I keep mine for two years from the time it was paid off and put the payment amount in the bank each month instead, I'll have $13,400 in the bank and a car that's still worth at least $7K, if not more. I don't even have to do the present value calculation to see that I'd come out ahead by waiting. I believe I can reasonably assume this car will be reliable that long.

I'm not criticizing your decision to buy a new car, just the rationalization of it.
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How does the math on that work? It seems like continuing to drive the car and get use out of it without a payment for another couple of years would carry a higher value than the trade-in value applied against a new car.

I know if I keep mine for two years from the time it was paid off and put the payment amount in the bank each month instead, I'll have $13,400 in the bank and a car that's still worth at least $7K, if not more. I don't even have to do the present value calculation to see that I'd come out ahead by waiting. I believe I can reasonably assume this car will be reliable that long.

I'm not criticizing your decision to buy a new car, just the rationalization of it.
I've known plenty of people who cannot live without a car payment.

OP, sounds like you found a car You like. Congrats. Hope it serves you well.
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Old 06-29-2018, 04:08 PM   #22
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I've known plenty of people who cannot live without a car payment.

OP, sounds like you found a car You like. Congrats. Hope it serves you well.
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How does the math on that work? It seems like continuing to drive the car and get use out of it without a payment for another couple of years would carry a higher value than the trade-in value applied against a new car.

I know if I keep mine for two years from the time it was paid off and put the payment amount in the bank each month instead, I'll have $13,400 in the bank and a car that's still worth at least $7K, if not more. I don't even have to do the present value calculation to see that I'd come out ahead by waiting. I believe I can reasonably assume this car will be reliable that long.

I'm not criticizing your decision to buy a new car, just the rationalization of it.

I'm recently out of college and already know a ton of people who've gone from loan to loan on cars just keep some kind of car payment. It's more of a value proposition for the owner and what they want in a car for a certain amount of time. Alot of people don't look in the practical sense you suggested @extrashaky of not making a payment and putting it into a bank. I'm not entirely sure which is better but it works for people I guess
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Some people will stay in unending debt for that new car smell.
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I didn't realize people bought that many "new car smell" air fresheners.
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Some people will stay in unending debt for that new car smell.
I have nothing against debt. Debt is an extremely useful tool when used responsibly.

I was just amused by the rationalization and wondered if there were really some math I was missing to help that line of reasoning make any sense. I suspect the real reason he bought the car is "Fuck you, I wanted it," which is a much better justification than some silliness about trade-in value intended to paint it as a financially savvy decision.

What I'm saying is, you don't need excuses. Fuck you I wanted it is as good a reason as any.
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Fuck you I wanted it is as good a reason as any.
I've had my prior car for almost 20 years now(passed down to my son 4 years ago when he turned 16). When I bought this car that was my reasoning. I agree, it's as good a reason as any.
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