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tahdizzle · 06-20-2014, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by airjonny

That's the 4 pot. The 3.6 ATS is around 3600. The Camaro will have a heavier v8 and other heavier components to accommodate the extra power.

the RWD 3.6 is 3461 lbs.

Depending on the trim, It wouldn't be hard to believe a camaro would be <3400 lbs.

Afterall the ATS is a cadillac, thus extra weight due to sound insulation and all the other luxuries.

juliog · 06-20-2014, 03:43 PM

The new Camaro will be lighter than the previous gen.

unsurety · 06-21-2014, 01:00 PM

On the left is a DOHC 4.6L V8, and on the left is an OHV 5.0L V8

I don't know how it compares to the other engines but an LS1 is ~400 lbs.

rapidcars · 09-17-2014, 12:21 PM

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...gt_first_test/

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

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So why isn't the new ponycar faster than the old one, or handle as well given its horsepower and torque bump and new suspension? One word: weight. The new Mustang GT weighs in at 3814 pounds, a 196-pound increase over the last similarly equipped Mustang GT we tested

Seems like they blew it. Originally, everyone was expecting a lighter, better handling Mustang and it didn't happen. I'm sure it's still a blast to drive but I was expecting more.

tahdizzle · 09-17-2014, 12:24 PM

Lets just hope Chevy gets the new gen camaros right.

chrisl · 09-17-2014, 12:27 PM

This is pretty disappointing, IMO. Even with the extra weight, I was still at least expecting it to handle better than the old Boss 302, considering the massive suspension change. If they couldn't even achieve that, what was the point of the new model? That having been said, the Car and Driver article seems significantly more positive than the Motor Trend one, so maybe there's still a bit of hope? I'll be curious to see track times for the new car, but this definitely isn't the change I was hoping for.

EricJ17 · 09-17-2014, 12:32 PM

Also disappointed. I was expecting the 2015 to handle great, but even the 2014s felt super heavy. I hear the New Edge Cobras with their IRS handles amazing, but that car is significantly lighter. One can always swap that IRS into any Fox or later Mustang and have a great handling car.

Edit: Fox through New Edge, that is.

funwheeldrive · 09-17-2014, 12:47 PM

The ecoboost will be about 300lbs lighter right?

I'm guessing the majority of GT buyers will be older because of the relatively high price. I'm not surprised that the car is more refined overall.

I feel like Ford has been teasing us with this car forever. It's not even out and the car looks dated.

tahdizzle · 09-17-2014, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

The ecoboost will be about 300lbs lighter right?

I'm guessing the majority of GT buyers will be older because of the relatively high price. I'm not surprised that the car is more refined overall.

Eco boost will be lighter than the GT, but not the v6 :p

Eco boost is ~170 lbs lighter than the GT in Manual trim
and the Eco boost is ~5 lbs heavier than the v6 in manual trim

DarkSunrise · 09-17-2014, 01:52 PM

Well.. that was a big let-down. At least it looks good.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 09-17-2014, 01:53 PM

God dammit why so heavy...

Hot Lava · 09-17-2014, 02:03 PM

Another mediocre handling, overweight Mustang. Only goes to show what with superb handling out of the chute how remarkable the twins are.

53Driver · 09-17-2014, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisl

This is pretty disappointing, IMO. Even with the extra weight, I was still at least expecting it to handle better than the old Boss 302, considering the massive suspension change. If they couldn't even achieve that, what was the point of the new model? That having been said, the Car and Driver article seems significantly more positive than the Motor Trend one, so maybe there's still a bit of hope? I'll be curious to see track times for the new car, but this definitely isn't the change I was hoping for.

I thought Ford had been touting all along that the new base Mustang GT was going to outperform the outgoing Boss Mustangs? I guess they were blowing smoke.

f0rge · 09-17-2014, 03:20 PM

This whole thread made me sad.

WTF Ford???

Maybe they did that so they'd have room for another Boss-like model at the top of the handling range? Myabe the GT350?

I am dissapoint.

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chrisl Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2006 Cayman S, 2007 Outback 2.5i Location: Colorado Posts: 1,116 Thanks: 116 Thanked 455 Times in 303 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is pretty disappointing, IMO. Even with the extra weight, I was still at least expecting it to handle better than the old Boss 302, considering the massive suspension change. If they couldn't even achieve that, what was the point of the new model? That having been said, the Car and Driver article seems significantly more positive than the Motor Trend one, so maybe there's still a bit of hope? I'll be curious to see track times for the new car, but this definitely isn't the change I was hoping for.

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