The Best Performing Rear Wing for the FRS/BRZ/FT86

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by MRE

The performance of aerodynamics works alongside with the other modifications done to a car. My wing has a large coefficient for creating downforce. This wing is functional at all speeds, on cars of all power/mod index.



The market is full of smaller wings. I am creating a wing that can output more noticeable downforce, the size of my wing is the by-product of that goal.

I'm fairly familiar with aero...what kind of drag penalty comes along with this wing? L/D?

[MRE]

Originally Posted by Gunman

I'm fairly familiar with aero...what kind of drag penalty comes along with this wing? L/D?

The wing alone, with its experimental endplate, at 120kph, makes 201.2lb lift and 49.6lb drag. I have yet to run simulations across different speeds to produce a reliable graph depicting L/D ratio.

[Createddeleted]

And what does this do to the vehicles calculated CD?

[aznatama]

Might be useful IF it confirms with the regulations of an actual competition series. However, for the general public, it's probably not worth it.

Looks like the only real "difficulty" is getting the mounting bracket made. nothing a plasma cutter and a sheet of aluminum can't solve though. The wing itself, you can get carbon or aluminum pre-fabbed straight wings anywhere. End plates are as easy as mounting brackets.

If you make it, post pics. But I highly doubt there is a market for this...

Perhaps you can look of some regulations of actual race series, then market this to the teams there?

[MRE]

Originally Posted by Createddeleted

And what does this do to the vehicles calculated CD?

I have not performed simulations of the wing on the car yet. I don't have the proper 3D model to conduct the experimentation yet.

Originally Posted by aznatama

Might be useful IF it confirms with the regulations of an actual competition series. However, for the general public, it's probably not worth it.

Looks like the only real "difficulty" is getting the mounting bracket made. nothing a plasma cutter and a sheet of aluminum can't solve though. The wing itself, you can get carbon or aluminum pre-fabbed straight wings anywhere. End plates are as easy as mounting brackets.

If you make it, post pics. But I highly doubt there is a market for this...

Perhaps you can look of some regulations of actual race series, then market this to the teams there?

The wing's made for racing series and used in racing series are good enough as I see them. The market is saturated with them. I am creating something with an even higher performance coefficient, unbound by any regulation. My main target audience are people who are into track day and HPDE events and seek to modify their cars to be ever faster. I chose to tackle the aerodynamics sector first, because I see greater improvements can be made on current products.

[campy]

This car can't get going fast enough to necessitate a wing.

[Hot Lava]

How much will it unload the front end? Have you considered what effect your wing will have on the front?

[MRE]

Originally Posted by campy

This car can't get going fast enough to necessitate a wing.

That statement is not true. Aerodynamics affects all speeds. Going beyond an arbitrary speed does not create a binary condition for when a wing functions or not. The efficiency of my wing allows much more noticeable effect in increased turning speeds and reduced braking distance, compared to the competing wings in the market. The biggest factor dictating the downforce goals I've set is the mass of the car. The wing, being shaped and sized the way it is, is a by-product of the performance goals I've set.

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by MRE

I have not performed simulations of the wing on the car yet. I don't have the proper 3D model to conduct the experimentation yet.

So your claims, so far, are meaningless?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

So your claims, so far, are meaningless?

100% guaranteed to have people look at you and point!

[RockRoll]

Money talks...Bullshit walks...

[MRE]

Originally Posted by Hot Lava

How much will it unload the front end? Have you considered what effect your wing will have on the front?

Yes I have. Because of the wing placement, there wouldn't be enhanced lift anywhere, and yields only net downforce across length of the car.

[MRE]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

So your claims, so far, are meaningless?

Not meaningless at all. I've done experimenting on the wing on its own, and the wing on another vehicle. Because of that and the results I got from it, I can confidently say my wing will improve perform better than competitors—even without the more direct evidence of live-testing and CFD with the FRS. The flow dynamics and interaction of the wing from that test can be translated and extrapolated as a starting ground for the mount and wing place you see here now.

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by campy

This car can't get going fast enough to necessitate a wing.

Any car can benefit from a wing, etc., top speed really has no bearing on if it will help cornering speeds or not.