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Old Yesterday, 12:30 PM   #29
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I'd give the Veloster N a fair shot, I wouldn't bother with the regular Veloster/Turbo as I think I'd rather be in a Civic Si at that price/power point. I have no interest in sedans so the WRX and Regal are out but I'd give the Regal wagon a shot as a 'family car'. Rest of the sports/sporty cars are a maybe, none hit the minimum weight/practicality balance I want like the 86.

Edit: I could do a two seater with decent storage space, I'd still happily buy the 86 if it was a 2-seat with say 2" shorter wheelbase and ~100# lighter.

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Actually there are several cars in there I'd take if you were handing them out. Only a couple I'd put my on money down on tough, or would cross shop. In reverse order by 0 - 60 times.

Veloster N: Don't like, wouldn't cross shop, wouldn't buy, would sell if given to
WRX: It's OK, would cross shop, might buy, would keep
Camaro: Fanboi can't help it Carolina genes, would cross shop, wouldn't buy because mine would be way more expensive, would keep
Mustang: MomHawk likes it, she'd make me cross shop, same excuse as the Camaro, would give to MomHawk.
Regal: Ugly and I'm not THAT old, Nope, Nope, would give to my Grandmother
Miata: No thanks, nope, nope, would sell
GTI: Sure, would cross shop, maybe for someone else, would give to my son.
Veloster: See above
Kona: Kinda like, would cross-shop, if I needed a 4-door on the cheap, would keep
Mini Cooper: Nope, Nope, Nope, Sell
86: Yes, Yes, and the one I'd most likely rebuy out of this price group, keep
Challenger: Never have liked the new one. Now if we're talking a classic one..., would sell
Civic Si: Used to be a fanboi, would drive, might buy, would give to son.
Fiat Spider: Like it better than the Miata, would still rather have a Sky. would test drive, would not buy without a hardtop, might keep in the family
Almost identical opinion to you besides the Kona and WRX. Both of these are a hell to the naw for me.

WRX: More pedestrian than ever before, thinks it's fast, boring to look at, would rather have a Si/Focus ST/GTI, would rally it though.

Kona: Get it away. KonaVirus - Kovid 175
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Had to rent a base Kona to get home when wife's ML500 went belly up in Cleveland. Would never, and I mean NEVER, buy one as anything other than an appliance.. as in, colostomy bag. Yes, it does what it needs to do. Yes, it wasn't any fun or enjoyable in the least.

The only cars on that list that have any appeal to me at all, other than the 86, are the Miata and Fiat.... and, if my wife isn't looking and I have to be totally honest, the Camaro, but it's a distant fourth.

Manual and RWD are mandatory for me.
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It's tough for me to warm up to the 4 cyl pony cars. It's like 60% of the engine, but with 100% of the size and 90% of the weight. Without the V8, what's the point of having a chassis that large?

For all its flaws, I still like the WRX as a street car. Something about having a compact, practical 4 door sedan with AWD and a turbo is still inherently appealing to me. I'd happily drive one.

Same for the GTI. Compared with the WRX you give up AWD, but gain so much back in polish and refinement.

The ND Miata is appealing to me for all the reasons that the BRZ/FR-S is. Agile, visceral and fun. It lacks practicality of the Twins, but as a 3rd car it works.

The rest I'd pass on. I'm sure the Veloster N drives great, but I just can't get past the interior or exterior. Call me shallow.
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Regal: Ugly and I'm not THAT old, Nope, Nope, would give to my Grandmother
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GTI: Sure, would cross shop, maybe for someone else, would give to my son.
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Kona: Kinda like, would cross-shop, if I needed a 4-door on the cheap, would keep


I own the Regal wagon. Looks good to me. Great car other than the transmission. Got mine for well below 30k new.

Oddly enough, cross shopped that with Kona and gti as well. Kona is a neat little package, lots of good things for a relatively low price.
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I own the Regal wagon. Looks good to me. Great car other than the transmission. Got mine for well below 30k new.
I like the wagon, but that's not the one in the list. GM needs to stick a LS4 in the wagon and revive the CTS-V wagon under Cadillac. Although I might be able to afford it if it were a Buick instead.
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I like the wagon, but that's not the one in the list. GM needs to stick a LS4 in the wagon and revive the CTS-V wagon under Cadillac. Although I might be able to afford it if it were a Buick instead.
I don't think the LS4 would fit... It's a FF layout. But the v6 they have in the Regal GS... That would be pretty nice.

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