Comfort Performance KW v3 vs HKS Hypermax IV GT - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Tedderple · 10-04-2017, 05:07 PM

Hi All,

I've been scouring reviews and comparisons about different coilover setups for the twins (or is it triplets now?).

What my goal is:
To have coilovers that can be adjusted to be more comfortable than stock (girl is complaining), but can be dialed in for more high-performance sessions like AutoX and 1-2 track days a year.

Currently, I have stock struts with eibach pro kit lowering springs. There are no other suspension modifications.

Am I looking at the correct coilovers? (KW v3/HKS Hypermax IV GT)
I picked these two due to decent reviews and reputation. I also have read that these two coilovers are comfortable for daily driving, but what I have failed to find was a comparison to comfort levels vs stock.

I have seen the ST XTA coils but I live in Vancouver where we may get the occasional snow and salted roads -- which might corrode the body quicker.

I don't need a full discussion, although it would be welcome. It would also help if you guys are aware of threads that have a more direct comparison that I am looking for, and I may have missed.

Jrdad · 10-04-2017, 07:02 PM

I'd recommend having a look at the Tein Flex A CSG spec coilovers. They're Flex A coils that have had the dampening adjusted as per Counterspace Garage to remove the range that's too soft and unused.

strat61caster · 10-04-2017, 07:47 PM

comfortable does not mean low performance, not many people test coilovers back to back so everything will be subjective

Maybe Bilstein B16 fits the bill

Tedderple · 10-04-2017, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster

comfortable does not mean low performance, not many people test coilovers back to back so everything will be subjective

Maybe Bilstein B16 fits the bill

Yeah, understandable.

I actually read that higher performance coilovers usually have a pretty solid and comfortable ride as they need a good base to give that higher performance needed.

The type of coilovers I'm looking for will simply have a range from being more comfortable than stock, and has the ability to be a decent choice for the occasional sporting event.

I'll look into the B16 too

solidONE · 10-04-2017, 10:04 PM

Search for reviews on the Flex Z. Not sure how it will hold up against road salts. Better yet, got go a meet and try to find someone with a set installed and ask for a ride.

Turdinator · 10-04-2017, 10:42 PM

Not sure what you budget is but the Ohlins R&T might work for you, especially with the softer spring rates they now have.

Racecomp Engineering · 10-05-2017, 10:59 AM

KW V3 can be very comfortable...if the dampers are set up correctly. The spring rates would work nicely for you and they have a lot of travel.

I've not ridden on the HKS GT, but the shock dynos looked like they'd be relatively comfortable. I'd want to see how much travel they have though.

Bilstein B16 would be a good choice as well.

- Andrew

sachu · 10-05-2017, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turdinator

Not sure what you budget is but the Ohlins R&T might work for you, especially with the softer spring rates they now have.

Am in the same boat and considering the same coils, Ohlins Road and track, Flex Z, Flex A (CSG spec), Racecomp T2s.

WOuld love to hear more about the Ohlins and the Flex A CSG spec.

Racecomp Engineering · 10-05-2017, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sachu

Am in the same boat and considering the same coils, Ohlins Road and track, Flex Z, Flex A (CSG spec), Racecomp T2s.

WOuld love to hear more about the Ohlins and the Flex A CSG spec.

The new Ohlins are very very soft. We liked the old ones (and ran them on our old shop car for a while).

No first hand experience with the Teins.

T2s aren't uncomfortable IMO but if comfort is a main priority I'd have a different recommendation.

- Andrew

sachu · 10-05-2017, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

T2s aren't uncomfortable IMO but if comfort is a main priority I'd have a different recommendation.

- Andrew

Sent you a PM.

Tedderple · 10-05-2017, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

KW V3 can be very comfortable...if the dampers are set up correctly. The spring rates would work nicely for you and they have a lot of travel.

I've not ridden on the HKS GT, but the shock dynos looked like they'd be relatively comfortable. I'd want to see how much travel they have though.

Bilstein B16 would be a good choice as well.

- Andrew

When you mentioned travel, is this the shock travel?
I'm just trying to get more info to research this myself.

Tedderple · 10-05-2017, 03:07 PM

I'm just adding this as a reference to the Teins mentioned earlier.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81829

Putting this in here in case for easier linking.

CSG Mike does mention that it is good for comfort, but AutoX/Track may wear the Teins very quickly.

Racecomp Engineering · 10-05-2017, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedderple

When you mentioned travel, is this the shock travel?
I'm just trying to get more info to research this myself.

Yes.

- Andrew

wparsons · 10-05-2017, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

The new Ohlins are very very soft. We liked the old ones (and ran them on our old shop car for a while).

No first hand experience with the Teins.

T2s aren't uncomfortable IMO but if comfort is a main priority I'd have a different recommendation.

- Andrew

And yet again RCE comes off as awesome even if it means not selling their own product

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Tedderple Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 2015 FRS Halo (White) Location: Vancouver Posts: 86 Thanks: 26 Thanked 44 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Comfort Performance KW v3 vs HKS Hypermax IV GT Hi All, I've been scouring reviews and comparisons about different coilover setups for the twins (or is it triplets now?). What my goal is: To have coilovers that can be adjusted to be more comfortable than stock (girl is complaining), but can be dialed in for more high-performance sessions like AutoX and 1-2 track days a year. Currently, I have stock struts with eibach pro kit lowering springs. There are no other suspension modifications. Am I looking at the correct coilovers? (KW v3/HKS Hypermax IV GT) I picked these two due to decent reviews and reputation. I also have read that these two coilovers are comfortable for daily driving, but what I have failed to find was a comparison to comfort levels vs stock. I have seen the ST XTA coils but I live in Vancouver where we may get the occasional snow and salted roads -- which might corrode the body quicker. I don't need a full discussion, although it would be welcome. It would also help if you guys are aware of threads that have a more direct comparison that I am looking for, and I may have missed. __________________ AVO Turbo with FlexFuel\| Perrin 2.75" CAI(gone) \| Now: Perrin 3" Catback \| MXP Comp RS Catback(gone) \| Magnaflow Catback(gone) \| Gruppe-S UEL Headers (gone) \| 18x7.5 TE37 on Firehawk Indy500 225/40/18 \| Valenti Tail Lights \| Drift-Office Tuned 220whp-350whp

10-04-2017, 10:04 PM	#5
solidONE Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: FR-S Whiteout Location: California Posts: 2,863 Thanks: 1,808 Thanked 790 Times in 611 Posts Mentioned: 42 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Search for reviews on the Flex Z. Not sure how it will hold up against road salts. Better yet, got go a meet and try to find someone with a set installed and ask for a ride. __________________ Intent > Content cowardice is the mother of cruelty.

10-05-2017, 03:07 PM	#12
Tedderple Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 2015 FRS Halo (White) Location: Vancouver Posts: 86 Thanks: 26 Thanked 44 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm just adding this as a reference to the Teins mentioned earlier. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81829 Putting this in here in case for easier linking. CSG Mike does mention that it is good for comfort, but AutoX/Track may wear the Teins very quickly. __________________ AVO Turbo with FlexFuel\| Perrin 2.75" CAI(gone) \| Now: Perrin 3" Catback \| MXP Comp RS Catback(gone) \| Magnaflow Catback(gone) \| Gruppe-S UEL Headers (gone) \| 18x7.5 TE37 on Firehawk Indy500 225/40/18 \| Valenti Tail Lights \| Drift-Office Tuned 220whp-350whp

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