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mb_ · 01-10-2017, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

First sets coming in a few weeks. PM for price.

We're pretty pumped about the response from everybody! We're excited about these too.

- Andrew

PM'd for pricing!

staro0989 · 01-10-2017, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

First sets coming in a few weeks. PM for price.

We're pretty pumped about the response from everybody! We're excited about these too.

- Andrew

PM sent for price!

racecarshots · 01-14-2017, 01:16 AM

Someone in SoCal get these, I want to compare them to my Tarmac 1s. Haha.

Pat · 01-14-2017, 10:15 AM

@Racecomp Engineering Can you tell us how the travel on these compares to OEM? I know with the Ohlins people aren't happy with the lack of rear travel, and I've ridden in another BRZ where I felt like rear travel was limited on slightly shorter springs.

TofuJoe · 02-26-2017, 11:22 PM

Waiting for more spec info on ride height, price, and availability.

strat61caster · 02-27-2017, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat

@Racecomp Engineering Can you tell us how the travel on these compares to OEM? I know with the Ohlins people aren't happy with the lack of rear travel, and I've ridden in another BRZ where I felt like rear travel was limited on slightly shorter springs.

Since they're B14 based, yes they will be rear travel limited if you bolt onto the OE top hats and OE LCA. Like, with the OE bumpstop Bilstein has you re-use, if you're any lower than about 1/2" than stock you're into the bump stop just sitting still iirc, and I might be remembering generously. I measured travel on my B14's, and from an OE height of 26.5" (fender to ground) they bottom out at ~24.3", but I need to do those measurements again, my surface wasn't level and I rode around with them installed wrong with a spacer limiting travel which should be worth at least a 1/4" of wheel travel. So if you want to drop this thing 2" you'll have 1/2" of bump travel.

I don't think it's worth not considering these, just that these aren't the coils to drop the thing >1" and go racing without grabbing top hats or an LCA that adds some bump travel, and I'm not too aware of any coilover that is proven to solve that. In this realm few of us have the ability to assess what is necessary and 'correct', too many variables. I'm curious what GTW is going to do with the bumpstops on these things, advise cutting X" off OE, provide their own, if the front is the same that Bilstein puts on their B14, etc.

rcm47 · 03-17-2017, 10:44 PM

Have these released for the FRS/BRZ/86 yet? Just found this thread and I'm really interested.

Ro_Ja · 03-21-2017, 01:41 AM

So......how much longer do we have to wait?

kuczynskika · 04-03-2017, 03:58 PM

When can we haz?

Racecomp Engineering · 04-03-2017, 05:14 PM

Guys I've got some bad news. We've been delayed to the end of the year. Seriously bummed about it...this was outside of our control and just one of the facts of being a group of niche USDMs guy in a niche market. They're coming, but we're now optimistically hoping for December.

We really really like how these turned out AND we were blown away by the interest in these. To now have to wait so much longer to get them out to everyone is a little bit painful. If you were seriously interested in these, let me know and I'll try to make it up to you.

- Andrew

gramicci101 · 04-04-2017, 04:09 AM

Thank you for the update, Andrew. I was about to pester you via pm to discuss pricing when I saw your post. I'm out of the country until Sept anyways, so I'll wait to bug you about it until Christmas gets closer.

JazzleSAURUS · 04-04-2017, 01:50 PM

I was really looking forward to these!! I have two locals who asked if I'd install them when they came out, already!

Do you think the closest comparable offering to point them in is the T2?

I've setup a few sets of the V3's, and one of them had takeoff springs from the T2 and they were quite nice.

Racecomp Engineering · 04-04-2017, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS

I was really looking forward to these!! I have two locals who asked if I'd install them when they came out, already!

Do you think the closest comparable offering to point them in is the T2?

I've setup a few sets of the V3's, and one of them had takeoff springs from the T2 and they were quite nice.

The T2s are a little bit more track focused with some extra flexibility due to the 2 way damper adjustment. You can set them to feel "close" to the Bilsteins on the street but also set them for more of a track edge. Bit of a jump in price though.

Our T0 would be the closest IMO. The T0 have more compression damping and slightly softer springs. Not quite as good as the Bilsteins on track, but they are actually very good for auto-x.

- Andrew

JazzleSAURUS · 04-04-2017, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

The T2s are a little bit more track focused with some extra flexibility due to the 2 way damper adjustment. You can set them to feel "close" to the Bilsteins on the street but also set them for more of a track edge. Bit of a jump in price though.

Our T0 would be the closest IMO. The T0 have more compression damping and slightly softer springs. Not quite as good as the Bilsteins on track, but they are actually very good for auto-x.

- Andrew

Got it, that makes sense.

So these are sort of a half way, then.

Would the T0 with a bit more spring be a comparable setup that could be facilitated through you guys upon request?

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