2020 TRD Camry Looks Good On Paper

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

...And to car owners. The worst offender to my sensibilities is caliper covers, but I am just as guilty as others by having unnecessarily large (4.5”) exhaust tips on my Greddy Supreme SP catback, when it does almost nothing for sound or performance, or by having the OEM ground effects and “rear diffuser”; they just make the car look sporty with minimal improvements to air flow and downforce.

And is it worse to have fake looking items or unused items? This is what most of the industry is about.

Right, then the fake ground effect of the year goes out of fashion and you're stuck with something ridicule worthy that will more often than not hurt resale value.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

...And to car owners. The worst offender to my sensibilities is caliper covers, but I am just as guilty as others by having unnecessarily large (4.5”) exhaust tips on my Greddy Supreme SP catback, when it does almost nothing for sound or performance, or by having the OEM ground effects and “rear diffuser”; they just make the car look sporty with minimal improvements to air flow and downforce.

And is it worse to have fake looking items or unused items? This is what most of the industry is about.

I feel so attacked by this post! How dare you make fun of my STI body kit!

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I feel so attacked by this post! How dare you make fun of my STI body kit!

I can’t tell if you are being serious, but in case you missed it, the picture was trying yo illustrate the irony of a muddy car next to a shiny, lifted, “off-road”, 4x4 truck that probably never goes off road and takes speed bumps at 1mph. When styling a vehicle to someone’s tastes, appearances are greater than intended function for the majority of owners.

[Lantanafrs2]

I would prefer the balance of a knock ridden, underpowered boxer motor over a v6. What was Toyota thinking?

[JD001]

Originally Posted by Spuds

What I hear you saying is they need to put the v6 in the 86?

I hear that but then it wouldn't be a Subaru... V6 actually would be really nice.. I can just picture it now, darn!! I would definitely consider/buy one..

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by JD001

I hear that but then it wouldn't be a Subaru... V6 actually would be really nice.. I can just picture it now, darn!! I would definitely consider/buy one..

Someone should do a swap with this. If it can do 0-60 in .6-.8 sec faster then the 86 at almost 1k lbs heavier. The 86 could be a reliable NA beast. And maintain oem toyota spec.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Someone should do a swap with this. If it can do 0-60 in .6-.8 sec faster then the 86 at almost 1k lbs heavier. The 86 could be a reliable NA beast. And maintain oem toyota spec.

It wouldn't be 1000 lbs heavier. Few hundred tops and it would be way faster and more reliable.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

It wouldn't be 1000 lbs heavier. Few hundred tops and it would be way faster and more reliable.

Camry is Curb weight: 3,549 lbs
86 is Curb weight: 2,776 lbs

so your right Camry is only 773lbs more.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

.And is it worse to have fake looking items or unused items? This is what most of the industry is about.

I've explained this photo before. These guys both went offroading together and then stopped at Waffle House afterwards for a meal.

The difference is the guy on the right didn't follow the guy on the left through the car wash because he was afraid he would have no paint left on his car once it was clean.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Camry is Curb weight: 3,549 lbs
86 is Curb weight: 2,776 lbs

so your right Camry is only 773lbs more.

That's not all engine weight

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

That's not all engine weight

Who ever said it was? The Camry is about 800 pounds heavier, not sure what is so complicated to understand... it does 0-60 in 5.8seconds the 86 is listed between 6.4-6.6sec that is .6-.8 seconds faster then the 86 at 800lbs heavier weight. If that engine was swapped to the 86 being 800lbs lighter than the Camry, one would assume the 86 would be doing well under 5.8sec 0-60, probably 4.5-4.8sec 0-60.

[Lantanafrs2]

Misunderstood you're original post. I'll bet a v6 could be done and be around 3100lbs. Not that it'll happen but would be nice.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Rampage

Apparently they look at Honda Civic Type Rs all day. Yuck!

sorry for the late reply to this post, but if you look at Honda Civic Type-Rs all day, you'd understand the same thing corporate executives understand: there's a huge market for this type of car.

Honda can't keep up with demand for the Type-R, plain and simple. Hate on the car all we want but it sells and the demand isn't slowing down.

For years, people complained about the Camry being too plain or boring. Now Toyota does something wild to it, and everyone complains about the mods.

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Who ever said it was? The Camry is about 800 pounds heavier, not sure what is so complicated to understand... it does 0-60 in 5.8seconds...

And that's before the A/T software updates to reduce shift shock and allow redline sequential shifts. The early production transmissions were tuned for fuel economy and drew enough complaints from V-6 owners for Toyota to issue two free dealer installed updates so far.

I once did a friendly stoplight sprint in my wife's former Camry, a 268hp V-6 6A/T XLE vs. an early production 301hp V-6 8A/T XSE and pulled him by over a car length to 60 after something in his car cut power on the 1-2 shift and not from wheelspin. We tried again, him using the paddles, same result.