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FA20Club.com · 06-25-2013, 06:36 PM

Wanted to share with you a quick plot i saved for those looking to compare the popular Vortech kit to one of our turbo kits. Mods are as follows.

Vortech Run BLUE

Stock Header
Nameless Over/Front Pipe
Manual Transmission
HKS Exhaust
9 PSI

FA20CLUB 57 Trim Kit RED

Stock Front Pipe
Custom Exhaust
Automatic Transmission
7 PSI

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uspspro · 06-25-2013, 06:39 PM

Nice comparison.

Turbo is going to have the midrange, while the SC will have the transient feel of an NA setup.

One thing to consider is that the turbo kits have an aftermarket header (by design). I'm curious what the vortech can do with a good header installed!

pixel67 · 06-25-2013, 07:39 PM

Nice work! Its good to see some new results from different trims. Any chance you can overlay the 57 trim with the previous 60 trim? I am assuming both of these were on 93...

FA20Club.com · 06-25-2013, 07:43 PM

will do that once we get back on the dyno later this week with the 60 trim

vgi · 06-25-2013, 09:36 PM

is this your base kit or also with boost solenoid and fueling upgrades?

EDIT: nevermind, just opened another thread and see it's just a stiffer spring

FA20Club.com · 06-25-2013, 10:00 PM

Base kit goodies get added when we do e85

Freeman · 06-25-2013, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uspspro

One thing to consider is that the turbo kits have an aftermarket header (by design). I'm curious what the vortech can do with a good header installed!

This! But hey ya gotta promote your product. I'd be damn happy with either your turbo kit or the SC kit on my car.

Via my Note 2

jamesm · 06-25-2013, 10:57 PM

Fuel, meet the fire lol.

vgi · 06-25-2013, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeman

This! But hey ya gotta promote your product. I'd be damn happy with either your turbo kit or the SC kit on my car.

Via my Note 2

exactly, ^^^this, the product at such a low price point does include the header, has more power and on top has great potential if you need more power. looks to me like it promotes itself

Nothing · 06-25-2013, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uspspro

Nice comparison.

Turbo is going to have the midrange, while the SC will have the transient feel of an NA setup.

One thing to consider is that the turbo kits have an aftermarket header (by design). I'm curious what the vortech can do with a good header installed!

Also, the turbo is running less psi and an automatic tranny. If there was less powertrain loss with a manual and the car was running 9psi you'd see higher numbers.

FA20Club.com · 06-25-2013, 11:25 PM

the 57 trim is our recommendation for active road racers and the 50 for most autocross guys. if youre @Element Tuning swing with the 60 trim. simple productive old school turbos can never be forgotten. they work and work well. this motor has allot of engineering behind it that really shines with some power thrown at it.

lbroskee · 06-25-2013, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

will do that once we get back on the dyno later this week with the 60 trim

whos 60 trim? Bradons with more boost or elementals?

FA20Club.com · 06-26-2013, 12:02 AM

Brandon's

catharsis · 06-26-2013, 08:53 AM

Pretty expected results. The turbo gives more power, especially in the midrange but is a lot more unstable in power deliver. The graph is all over the place. The S/C puts down a little weaker numbers especially in the mid range but provides a very nice smooth curve. Keeping in line with a linear NA feel.

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FA20Club.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 White Out FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 24 Thanked 1,162 Times in 501 Posts Mentioned: 323 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	FA20CLUB Vortech vs. Turbo Kit Comparision Wanted to share with you a quick plot i saved for those looking to compare the popular Vortech kit to one of our turbo kits. Mods are as follows. Vortech Run BLUE Stock Header Nameless Over/Front Pipe Manual Transmission HKS Exhaust 9 PSI FA20CLUB 57 Trim Kit RED Stock Front Pipe Custom Exhaust Automatic Transmission 7 PSI [IMG][/IMG]

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pixel67 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 Asphalt FRS AT Location: Dacula, GA Posts: 517 Thanks: 138 Thanked 199 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nice work! Its good to see some new results from different trims. Any chance you can overlay the 57 trim with the previous 60 trim? I am assuming both of these were on 93... __________________ My Boosted Daily Driver Journal

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uspspro Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ, MR-S 3.5L V6 swap (sold) Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 602 Thanks: 28 Thanked 188 Times in 121 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Nice comparison. Turbo is going to have the midrange, while the SC will have the transient feel of an NA setup. One thing to consider is that the turbo kits have an aftermarket header (by design). I'm curious what the vortech can do with a good header installed!

06-25-2013, 07:43 PM	#4
FA20Club.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 White Out FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 24 Thanked 1,162 Times in 501 Posts Mentioned: 323 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	will do that once we get back on the dyno later this week with the 60 trim

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vgi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: frs Location: nj Posts: 723 Thanks: 237 Thanked 347 Times in 232 Posts Mentioned: 58 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	is this your base kit or also with boost solenoid and fueling upgrades? EDIT: nevermind, just opened another thread and see it's just a stiffer spring

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FA20Club.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 White Out FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 24 Thanked 1,162 Times in 501 Posts Mentioned: 323 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Base kit goodies get added when we do e85

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FA20Club.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 White Out FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 24 Thanked 1,162 Times in 501 Posts Mentioned: 323 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	the 57 trim is our recommendation for active road racers and the 50 for most autocross guys. if youre @Element Tuning swing with the 60 trim. simple productive old school turbos can never be forgotten. they work and work well. this motor has allot of engineering behind it that really shines with some power thrown at it.

06-26-2013, 12:02 AM	#13
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catharsis Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: honda civic si 08 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 176 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pretty expected results. The turbo gives more power, especially in the midrange but is a lot more unstable in power deliver. The graph is all over the place. The S/C puts down a little weaker numbers especially in the mid range but provides a very nice smooth curve. Keeping in line with a linear NA feel.

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