Subaru BRZ STI Spied Testing on Nurburgring!

[Captain Insano]

Originally Posted by Rampage

Toyota just unveiled the TRD supercharger at SEMA so for $5K (est.) plus install you can have the the extra 30-40 warrantied HP that everyone seems to want to go with that look.

That's alotta coin for not that much HP. Cool that it is warrantied though and I do like that all these options are emerging.

[Captain Insano]

Originally Posted by ICantAffordAnLFA

Wash your mouth out; FMIC indeed

Next you'll be telling me Subaru will build a rear drive car

LOL... It's a brave new world out there for Subaru.

[TOMIMOTO]

Can't really see the radiator in those pics. Is there room in there for a v-mount setup?

[adprokid]

They should bring the original STI brz concept, lighter, and higher rev 245HP N/A

[powertrip]

This is really amusing that so many of you assume that if you dont see a front mount intercooler it couldn't have a turbo. Most factory cars with turbos DONT USE A FMIC. Side mounts, top mounts, and even no intercooler are all much much more common than front mount in OEM applications. It most definitely could still have a turbo under the hood without an FMIC, though it's highly unlikely this soon.

[reni]

no turbo = no care

I'm sure it'll be a very nice car, but personally I don't think I could justify the likely large price increase over the limited model for a relatively small power/torque bump.

[dsgerbc]

New Forester has TMIC. So there is still hope for those expecting turbo.

[iLuveKetchup]

<--- hopes for no turbo

[(K)]

IMHO, a 10%-20% bump in power makes this car a bit threatening to the likes of S2000, 370Z, and Genesis Coupes in the acceleration segment. I've always been a big fan of factory BBKs and minor details such as additional spot/seam welding, but suspension is a fussy bit which I like to choose on my own. The aero pieces are minimalist (which is awesome).

In my mind, an STi BRZ would be as follows: brakes, wheels & tires, clutch, extra suspension bits, seats/interior, aero, and finally more liberal engine/exhaust tuning. As generic as that sounds.

[Captain Insano]

Originally Posted by powertrip

This is really amusing that so many of you assume that if you dont see a front mount intercooler it couldn't have a turbo. Most factory cars with turbos DONT USE A FMIC. Side mounts, top mounts, and even no intercooler are all much much more common than front mount in OEM applications. It most definitely could still have a turbo under the hood without an FMIC, though it's highly unlikely this soon.

I think it is really amusing that in an entire thread full of speculation you think it is amusing that there are a couple posts speculating about whether the yet to be released STi BRZ will or won't be turbo powered and whether it will or won't use a FMIC if it is turbo powered. And then you follow all that with your own speculation about how "It most definitely could still have a turbo under the hood without a FMIC, though it's highly unlikely this soon".

[Beyer Subaru]

Originally Posted by Captain Insano

I think it is really amusing that in an entire thread full of speculation you think it is amusing that there are a couple posts speculating about whether the yet to be released STi BRZ will or won't be turbo powered and whether it will or won't use a FMIC if it is turbo powered. And then you follow all that with your own speculation about how "It most definitely could still have a turbo under the hood without a FMIC, though it's highly unlikely this soon".

What are you talking about Insano? Don't you know that a source told us "The BRZ 2.ott STi tS Special Edition will be a twin turbo'd wankel generating 235hp and 1,350lb ft of torque at 1,273rpm. It will have twin electric motors out front that will get the AWD thing out of the way and give a modest 67mpg city and 43mpg highway."

It's already confirmed because a source told us so.

[TheSt|G]

^^^^

I continue to think you might be the best sponsor ever.

[Beyer Subaru]

[brewksy]

Just thought I'd post this from what I posted on NASIOC, seeing as this looks to be a more appropriate place for discussion...

Car                  Weight             Cost          HP/Wt ratio   Power
'11 Lotus Elise R    2010               $51845        0.0940         189
'14 Subaru BRZLOLWTF 2762               $?????        0.0905         250
'12 Porsche Cayman   2932               $51900        0.0903         265
'95 Mazda RX7        2882               $57702        0.0884         255
'09 Saturn Sky RL    3036               $33524        0.0856         260
'09 S2000            2864               $36771        0.0827         237
'14 Subaru BRZ STI   2662               $?????        0.0826         220
'11 Mini JCW         2668               $29100        0.0779         208
'11 Mazda RX8        3065               $26795        0.0756         232
'01 Acura Int Type R 2639               $32121        0.0738         195
'13 Subaru BRZ       2762               $25495        0.0724         200         
'05 Celica GTS       2500               $26748        0.0720         180
'11 Mini Cooper S    2668               $23000        0.0678         181
'12 Miata Touring    2480               $25550        0.0673         167
'00 Impreza 2.5RS    2795               $26201        0.0590         165
'05 Celica GT        2425               $21161        0.0577         140

*all numbers derived from MSN Autos (US) and adjusted for inflation

Here's my old graph back to haunt me...

I put two entries into it. For the first, I reduced the weight of the BRZ by 100 lbs and added 20 hp. Everyone thinks the S2K has a decent power/weight ratio, right? For the second, I threw in the ridiculous 50hp option.

Which do you think is more realistic? Sure, there's no actual engine knowledge applied to this reasoning, but for some reason I'm pretty confident the first option is going to see the light of day long before the second. As for pricing, I imagine the cost of the BRZ STI will be marketed according to its peers (as in the graph) - I put my pricing expectation of the STI upgrade to be at least $5000USD more than the MSRP of the base model.