Any thoughts on DSPs? are they worth the $?

[kmbkk]

I have an MS-8 as well. I haven't installed it yet in my FRS but had it in my previous car. A tC. It made a noticeable difference for my 3-way comps. For reference I've been tinkering with car audio for 25+ years; not professionally but have been in several competitions and worked closely with shops over the years. I'm considering opening my own shop when I finally retire from the AF.

[rupert]

Originally Posted by simplicityinsound

I have installed and tuned over 300 dsps..25 or so were ms8s. There r advantages and disadvantages of it versus a more traditional unit. I will try to elaborate more when im back from vacation.

But two things for sure.

1. Ms8 never did or will. Replace an experienced tuner in a car. It was never meant to be that.

2. Experience still counts a lot when setting up the ms8. I would not call it a dsp for someone with zero knowledge. Rather someone with good and solid fundamentals in audio can achieve decent results in as little as 10 to 15 mins.

B

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What has been surprising is the positive comments here concerning the RF 360.3. After reading on DIYMA, I thought the consensus was "meh". I bought one for my upcoming build knowing full well the issues of the GUI. For the price, the features it provides are perfect. I just hope I can get a decent amount tuned on my own before calling in a friend of mine

BTW... I love your avatar choice. Big GiTS fan!

[Skywgn1]

If you want to go old school I have a Rockford Symmetry EPX2 with the 28 band eq and the D-Card sitting in my closet.

[OICU812]

DSPs...


Bit Ten or if you can afford it Bit ONE, nothing touches em really for the money IMO.

[Zippy]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Arc Audio PS-8.

[simplicityinsound]

Originally Posted by OICU812

DSPs...


Bit Ten or if you can afford it Bit ONE, nothing touches em really for the money IMO.

There r many good dsps out there that I consider equals. I personally am not a fan of the bit processors but u can acheive good results with them.

I wanna see what they come up w version 2s to compete with the newer products that have more tuning ability.

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[cruzinbill]

Originally Posted by simplicityinsound

There r many good dsps out there that I consider equals. I personally am not a fan of the bit processors but u can acheive good results with them.

I wanna see what they come up w version 2s to compete with the newer products that have more tuning ability.

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I'm gonna come off like as ass but, its typical that people the "really like" the 6to8 dislike the bitone..... I think its bias honestly. Do you have any legitimate reason to not like the bitone?

[simplicityinsound]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

I'm gonna come off like as ass but, its typical that people the "really like" the 6to8 dislike the bitone..... I think its bias honestly. Do you have any legitimate reason to not like the bitone?

I can understand why you feel that way, but rest assured i dont just develop a bias out of thin air Again, please remember i said its just MY OPINION that i dont prefer the bit products, i am not saying its a bad unit an others shouldnt like it and that many DSPs are equals with no clear winner.

I have installed quite a few bitones and helped tune many more...so my preference is based on those experiences.

as for the 6to8, i do like the unit, but it is not pefect either, there are quite a few elements that i like more that comes on the bitone than the 6to8, but my final conclusion is that overall for system tuning and install, i prefer units other than the bit processors.

as to my exact reasons, i dont think its my place to list those things publically on the forum, if you want i can PM you the full details.

but i will say the central point is that for me, i prefer to tune with a full parametric eq with infinitely adjustable center frequencies and fully adjustable Qs. I feel that have a lot more flexility with this set up than a graphic eq and can achieve my desired results a lot faster.

That is why i prefer processors with this feature over the ones with graphic EQs


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[OnionTou]

Wow, I never expected to have so many options in the market, perhaps I'll have to import one, since in Peru we seem to only get JBL stuff.

Any advice in "easy-ness" to setup and change config? the audio store will do the initial work, but I'm more concerned if I want to tweak it down the line.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by simplicityinsound

I can understand why you feel that way, but rest assured i dont just develop a bias out of thin air Again, please remember i said its just MY OPINION that i dont prefer the bit products, i am not saying its a bad unit an others shouldnt like it and that many DSPs are equals with no clear winner.

I have installed quite a few bitones and helped tune many more...so my preference is based on those experiences.

as for the 6to8, i do like the unit, but it is not pefect either, there are quite a few elements that i like more that comes on the bitone than the 6to8, but my final conclusion is that overall for system tuning and install, i prefer units other than the bit processors.

as to my exact reasons, i dont think its my place to list those things publically on the forum, if you want i can PM you the full details.

but i will say the central point is that for me, i prefer to tune with a full parametric eq with infinitely adjustable center frequencies and fully adjustable Qs. I feel that have a lot more flexility with this set up than a graphic eq and can achieve my desired results a lot faster.

That is why i prefer processors with this feature over the ones with graphic EQs


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Fair enough reasons and I understand, I think it is what we become most familiar with plays a role in what we prefer as well for sure.

[Fletchlives78]

I have an ms-8 plugged into the stock head unit and speakers. Sounds great. Easy to set up.

[Skippman]

I'd love to hear the 6to8 but there's no dealers in the STL who carry their products.