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Old 07-30-2013, 07:44 PM   #1
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Hey guys I hope I am not opening a can of worms here but I did some quick searching with min results.

What I am looking for is anyone who has found or done some NA tuning like with new heads or port and polished maybe cams and what kind of gains people are seeing.

I have a feeling this motor has a lot of left to show with out a FI kit but I could be wrong..
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:11 PM   #2
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I hope you are right! I would love to stay NA if possible, but would also like to see 250 to the wheels.

On a side note, @crank, was that your BRZ at Extreme Autofest this past weekend? Only BRZ there and it was WRB. All the other 86's there were FRS's.
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I hope you are right! I would love to stay NA if possible, but would also like to see 250 to the wheels.

On a side note, @crank, was that your BRZ at Extreme Autofest this past weekend? Only BRZ there and it was WRB. All the other 86's there were FRS's.
Get a 4.56/4.67 FD and a CF driveshaft.You can also add lighter wheels and a lightweight crank pulley/flywheel. If you want to stay NA and make around 250whp you need to think outside of the box on how to make power and not just modify the engine.
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Get a 4.56/4.67 FD and a CF driveshaft.You can also add lighter wheels and a lightweight crank pulley/flywheel. If you want to stay NA and make around 250whp you need to think outside of the box on how to make power and not just modify the engine.
Good information! Thanks! I agree on thinking outside the box. Keeping my engine/drivetrain stock for awhile, so I have plenty of time to watch people do it and copy
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Good information! Thanks! I agree on thinking outside the box. Keeping my engine/drivetrain stock for awhile, so I have plenty of time to watch people do it and copy
I was going the FI route until I had a talk with a corvette enthusiast. Many of the first gen corvette's had 200hp yet were quick. Most of this was achieved with lightweight cars and gearing, you can have a 600hp frs but if the gearing is wrong then it is still slow. After around 2 hours of talking he convinced me to stay NA and to modify other parts of the car (also cheaper and more reliable then going FI :P)
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I was going the FI route until I had a talk with a corvette enthusiast. Many of the first gen corvette's had 200hp yet were quick. Most of this was achieved with lightweight cars and gearing. After around 2 hours of talk he convinced me to stay NA (also cheaper and more reliable then going FI) and to change the gearing around.
Love it. I actually bought the car To keep NA. This is great info!
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NA power... my favorite. It ain't easy making NA power especially on a small engine car, but I love the challenge and thinking about "the whole package" and not just engine power. Every little bit counts.

OP not much development besides exhausts and tunes for the NA crowd. FI is getting all the attention as of recent. It will come with time, but yeah light weight mods and FD are best bet until that development arrives.
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I agree thinking outside the box and a few of those mods mentioned are what I had in mind like cf drive shaft, ect.

No I was not there man sorry lol
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I will be going the NA route as I believe it suits the character of the FT86 best. I/H/E with a tune should make a significant difference. Combine this with weight loss via aftermarket parts including light weight wheels, CF drive-shaft and light weight battery etc..., I think it's possible to have a very potent NA setup. Don't think anyone makes cams for the FA20 yet... unless i'm wrong.
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Don't think anyone makes cams for the FA20 yet... unless i'm wrong.
The only ones I have seen we're in another post on here I will see if I can find it but they we're close to stock
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The only ones I have seen we're in another post on here I will see if I can find it but they we're close to stock
They were HKS ones to go with their stroker kit. The stroker took capacity out to less than 2.1lts and the cams were under 265*. Waste of money IMO.

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They were HKS ones to go with their stroker kit. The stroker took capacity out to less than 2.1lts and the cams were under 265*. Waste of money IMO.

EDIT: Found the LINK
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I'd love more power while NA but… there's also something to be said about turbo boost! I love the feeling of it being NA, just sayin' that that torque boost is something that always puts a smile on my face, not to mention the sound of the turbo, of course!
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Think outside the box, this 'WPC' could also be another alternative for us NA folks(and turbo/sc) who want extra reliability and possible HP once we figure out what to apply it to.


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