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bdanisi · 12-20-2012, 10:01 PM

Hey as you can tell im new here. I dont post alot but i do a lot of reading because like many of you i have the mod bug. I have almost 2k miles on my black frs and can only think about what im going to do to my car next. I love this car, and these forums are cool, but im sick of people trolling around complaining about all the potential things that can go wrong with this car. YES we know its a first gen, YES we know it has issues, but if you dont like it GET OUT!!! This car is amazing, and I LOVE my ECU crickets. So please if you are considering buying an frs do it, or go complain somewhere else.

Yruyur · 12-20-2012, 10:06 PM

Then again everyone has their opinions and posts on the forum. You will always have haters , trolls then people like us that love the car. I guess its what makes a forum.

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bluecollarfrs · 12-20-2012, 10:08 PM

You have ECU crickets?

Grateful Dave · 12-20-2012, 10:42 PM

I like my crickets. I take them fishing for German Brown Trout in the Sierra's.

I love my AT FR-S also It takes me where ever I go. I love every minute of it, even in LA rush hour traffic. It took me 2 hours and 50 minutes to go 60 miles to get home tonight.

jflogerzi · 12-20-2012, 10:54 PM

Best bang for your buck to add WHP/WTQ is an ECU Flash. Total is under 1K and should net you around a boost in WHP around 15 or so. Read up on it in the ECU sub forum.

wheelhaus · 12-20-2012, 10:55 PM

People who are unhappy about something will typically try to tell everyone about it, and the internet is a magnet for it.

I have yet to experience ANY of the problems I should have by now at 3,000 miles. No cooked diffs, no crickets, no built in massager - er, I mean idle dip, no christmas lights on the dash... nothing... I am disappoint.

I mean, I'm supposed to be mad at this car for all it's potential that Toyota and Subaru couldn't get it right? Screaming for reimbursement for my precious time?

Or, does this just mean that I should start bitching and whining that my BRZ isn't the shitbox full of TSB's and warranty issues I was expecting it to be... Yeah, I'm gonna go start a rant thread because it's the internet and I have the right to be angry and tell everyone I don't know all about how butthurt I am... grr.

NOHOME · 12-20-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bdanisi

Hey as you can tell im new here. I dont post alot but i do a lot of reading because like many of you i have the mod bug. I have almost 2k miles on my black frs and can only think about what im going to do to my car next. I love this car, and these forums are cool, but im sick of people trolling around complaining about all the potential things that can go wrong with this car. YES we know its a first gen, YES we know it has issues, but if you dont like it GET OUT!!! This car is amazing, and I LOVE my ECU crickets. So please if you are considering buying an frs do it, or go complain somewhere else.

Sorry, but you happen to be on an internet forum. There is no rule that we have agree with you or love a car that we just dumped 30k on. Sorry.

The car is good. But it's neither a great car nor a future classic. Just another good car like the MR2 was some years ago. You can see how far that got Toyota last time?

Let's look back in three or four years and see if the Toyobaru brilliant intro marketing turns into sales substance?

Good to hear that you are enjoying your car, they do handle brilliantly don't they? Everything else is open to speculation and opinion.

20valvewynn83 · 12-20-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME

Sorry, but you happen to be on an internet forum. There is no rule that we have agree with you or love a car that we just dumped 30k on. Sorry.

The car is good. But it's neither a great car nor a future classic. Just another good car like the MR2 was some years ago. You can see how far that got Toyota last time?

Let's look back in three or four years and see if the Toyobaru brilliant intro marketing turns into sales substance?

Good to hear that you are enjoying your car, they do handle brilliantly don't they? Everything else is open to speculation and opinion.

whaap · 12-20-2012, 11:23 PM

LOL. Funny post OP!

If you're happy post away but if you're unhappy we don't want to hear from you and want you to either keep it to yourself or just go away.

RagingDemon · 12-21-2012, 12:34 AM

I agree 100%, I don't own an FRS yet but geez

that_one_guy · 12-21-2012, 06:18 AM

seriously bdanisi, im so tired of everyone complaining, i wish i had thought to make a new thread complaining about all of the complaining like u did. at least you were smart about it and made an ambiguous title so nobody knew you were complaining, unlike those morons with CEL issues who make descriptive titles so people like you and me who don't want to read complaints can simply NOT CLICK ON THEM.

jarviz · 12-21-2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bdanisi

This car is amazing, and I LOVE my ECU crickets. So please if you are considering buying an frs do it, or go complain somewhere else.

Yes, living in the city, I don't get to hear crickets a alot at night when sleeping. I find the ECU crickets from my engine block rather soothing.

DarkSunrise · 12-21-2012, 08:28 AM

As always, the few who complain will usually be louder than the majority who are quietly enjoying their cars. And of the few complaining, only about half actually own the car from what I've seen. The rest are basing their complaints on hearsay or what they read on the internet.

The twins are amazing drivers' cars for the price. The multi-page list of COTY awards and the lop-sided track comparisons they're routinely throw into (FR-S vs. Cayman S, BRZ vs. [insert Porsche/Lotus/other expensive sports car], etc.) are proof of that. I haven't seen a giant-slayer like this car in a long time, maybe ever.

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Yeah there are way more than a few big whiners on this forun IMHO. Too bad you cant tick a little checkmark and put people into your whiners list. However, I do find it amusing reading some of these people's posts despite the impression they are giving newbies that this car is an Edsel or something. Personally I love my FR-S, although had I known a little more beforehand I'd probably have spent more and bought the upper trim Subaru. Now, I'm just spending the difference on add-ons, something I have NEVER done with a previous vehicle.

12-20-2012, 10:01 PM	#1
bdanisi You Made Bro? Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Raven 86 Location: Laguna Niguel Posts: 520 Thanks: 134 Thanked 241 Times in 112 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Please read before you make another post. Hey as you can tell im new here. I dont post alot but i do a lot of reading because like many of you i have the mod bug. I have almost 2k miles on my black frs and can only think about what im going to do to my car next. I love this car, and these forums are cool, but im sick of people trolling around complaining about all the potential things that can go wrong with this car. YES we know its a first gen, YES we know it has issues, but if you dont like it GET OUT!!! This car is amazing, and I LOVE my ECU crickets. So please if you are considering buying an frs do it, or go complain somewhere else.

12-20-2012, 10:06 PM	#2
Yruyur Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion fr-s asphalt M/T Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4,192 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 1,631 Times in 941 Posts Mentioned: 96 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Then again everyone has their opinions and posts on the forum. You will always have haters , trolls then people like us that love the car. I guess its what makes a forum. Sent from my flux capacitor using Taptalk __________________

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12-20-2012, 10:08 PM	#3
bluecollarfrs Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Ultramarine FR-S Location: Chesterfield, Va Posts: 94 Thanks: 27 Thanked 29 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 6 Thread(s)	You have ECU crickets?

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Grateful Dave 2nd 86 member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 Asphalt AT FR-S Location: OC California Posts: 363 Thanks: 513 Thanked 99 Times in 60 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like my crickets. I take them fishing for German Brown Trout in the Sierra's. I love my AT FR-S also It takes me where ever I go. I love every minute of it, even in LA rush hour traffic. It took me 2 hours and 50 minutes to go 60 miles to get home tonight.

12-20-2012, 10:55 PM	#6
wheelhaus Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ, 2020 KTM Super Duke 1290R Location: Denver Posts: 1,788 Thanks: 714 Thanked 1,141 Times in 624 Posts Mentioned: 49 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	People who are unhappy about something will typically try to tell everyone about it, and the internet is a magnet for it. I have yet to experience ANY of the problems I should have by now at 3,000 miles. No cooked diffs, no crickets, no built in massager - er, I mean idle dip, no christmas lights on the dash... nothing... I am disappoint. I mean, I'm supposed to be mad at this car for all it's potential that Toyota and Subaru couldn't get it right? Screaming for reimbursement for my precious time? Or, does this just mean that I should start bitching and whining that my BRZ isn't the shitbox full of TSB's and warranty issues I was expecting it to be... Yeah, I'm gonna go start a rant thread because it's the internet and I have the right to be angry and tell everyone I don't know all about how butthurt I am... grr.

12-20-2012, 11:23 PM	#9
whaap Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: '13 FR-S firestorm, 6 mt - '11 CR-V Location: Tucson Posts: 2,133 Thanks: 243 Thanked 1,387 Times in 657 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	LOL. Funny post OP! If you're happy post away but if you're unhappy we don't want to hear from you and want you to either keep it to yourself or just go away.

12-21-2012, 12:34 AM	#10
RagingDemon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Civic FG2, NA Miata Location: California Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I agree 100%, I don't own an FRS yet but geez

12-21-2012, 06:18 AM	#11
that_one_guy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: none Location: CA Posts: 437 Thanks: 46 Thanked 368 Times in 145 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	seriously bdanisi, im so tired of everyone complaining, i wish i had thought to make a new thread complaining about all of the complaining like u did. at least you were smart about it and made an ambiguous title so nobody knew you were complaining, unlike those morons with CEL issues who make descriptive titles so people like you and me who don't want to read complaints can simply NOT CLICK ON THEM.

12-21-2012, 08:28 AM	#13
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,794 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	As always, the few who complain will usually be louder than the majority who are quietly enjoying their cars. And of the few complaining, only about half actually own the car from what I've seen. The rest are basing their complaints on hearsay or what they read on the internet. The twins are amazing drivers' cars for the price. The multi-page list of COTY awards and the lop-sided track comparisons they're routinely throw into (FR-S vs. Cayman S, BRZ vs. [insert Porsche/Lotus/other expensive sports car], etc.) are proof of that. I haven't seen a giant-slayer like this car in a long time, maybe ever.

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