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Old 09-11-2018, 04:03 PM   #57
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Is this advertising without paying? The first post even has the price listed. heh... https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120639
My post was info from the Showa Tuning importer. I gave them feedback on MSRP suggestions as well as packaging/product info feedback.

Posting MSRP isn't advertising.. if you want to suggest that product info + MSRP is some form of advertising, then all the threads about new cars + pricing could be advertising as well, especially anyone that works at a dealer. Then we end up with a slippery slope argument that goes nowhere.

FRSport was a paying vendor up to end of 2017. Hope that helps.
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My post was info from the Showa Tuning importer. I gave them feedback on MSRP suggestions as well as packaging/product info feedback.

Posting MSRP isn't advertising.. if you want to suggest that product info + MSRP is some form of advertising, then all the threads about new cars + pricing could be advertising as well, especially anyone that works at a dealer. Then we end up with a slippery slope argument that goes nowhere.

FRSport was a paying vendor up to end of 2017. Hope that helps.
Exactly. I'm sure FRSport sell swift springs too as do RCE and pretty much every other supporting or non supporting vendor. So how is it when a guy post up measurements on Swift and some off-brand springs all of the sudden breaking some fine line, unwritten rule? It doesn't.
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then all the threads about new cars + pricing could be advertising as well
They aren't?

Man and here I thought vh_supra26 and gymratter were getting paid the big bucks.
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There is no more advertising in this thread then in the Suspension/Track Q&A threads where products get compared all the time (by RCE, CSG, AZP, etc). Technically info is just that, technical. Doesn't matter if it's from a shop or individual.

If you want to question the validity of comparing a single spring to another single spring, sure. But we have to start somewhere.

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3. I'm surprised people didn't know Swift springs were good? They're good and I've seen a bunch of tests like similar to this one. Hyperco are good too. Most of the Pirelli WC field and other top level motorsports is on Hyperco, Eibach, and H&R. Swift is a little more rare but that's not related to the quality of their springs.


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This was my biggest surprise from all this lol.
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There is no more advertising in this thread then in the Suspension/Track Q&A threads where products get compared all the time (by RCE, CSG, AZP, etc). Technically info is just that, technical. Doesn't matter if it's from a shop or individual.

If you want to question the validity of comparing a single spring to another single spring, sure. But we have to start somewhere.




This was my biggest surprise from all this lol.
What still is surprising me is that anyone still thinks there is a single person left that thinks he was trying to advertise.

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What still is surprising me is that anyone still thinks there is a single person left that thinks he was trying to advertise.
I do, it's the same spiel Swift has been pushing for a decade, and now people are talking about it, mission accomplished, the Swift rep that visited YCW did his job very well.
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1531816
https://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/...ing-Comparison
https://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-...omparison.html
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-br...rison-1187909/

Here's a thread from literally a decade ago with a novel comparison between coilover springs not yet seen by the masses, guess what the conclusion was?
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...gs-dynoed.html


I'm not going to report it or nuthin' and I'm not positing anything about the quality of anybodies product but it was good trollin' fun for a few days.

Maybe we'll be blessed with part 2 of 'Coilover 101' courtesy of Bor Chuann in a few days...
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1532398
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I guess the Pepsi challenge wasn’t advertising either. Just a comparison of two products with one being said to be far superior.
Sulking a product with “comparisons” has been done forever. This is not new.
Wonder if there would have been any post made at all if the “tests” had different results.
I strongly support venders that are up front and push their product but when something reeks of a hidden sales pitch I lose all confidence in their honesty.
This is the same pitch posted on their Facebook page yet we are to believe that it was just a random experiment?
They were a vendor but let it lapse so this is the only way they can push their product end of story.
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I do, it's the same spiel Swift has been pushing for a decade, and now people are talking about it, mission accomplished, the Swift rep that visited YCW did his job very well.
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1531816
https://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/...ing-Comparison
https://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-...omparison.html
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-br...rison-1187909/

Here's a thread from literally a decade ago with a novel comparison between coilover springs not yet seen by the masses, guess what the conclusion was?
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...gs-dynoed.html


I'm not going to report it or nuthin' and I'm not positing anything about the quality of anybodies product but it was good trollin' fun for a few days.

Maybe we'll be blessed with part 2 of 'Coilover 101' courtesy of Bor Chuann in a few days...
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1532398
Holy shit. I missed this.
Are there still people that believe it wasn’t advertising?
Not only did they lie about it they got all indignant when called out but there we have it.
He most likely didn’t even do the tests!
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I do, it's the same spiel Swift has been pushing for a decade, and now people are talking about it, mission accomplished, the Swift rep that visited YCW did his job very well.
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1531816
https://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/...ing-Comparison
https://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-...omparison.html
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-br...rison-1187909/

Here's a thread from literally a decade ago with a novel comparison between coilover springs not yet seen by the masses, guess what the conclusion was?
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...gs-dynoed.html


I'm not going to report it or nuthin' and I'm not positing anything about the quality of anybodies product but it was good trollin' fun for a few days.

Maybe we'll be blessed with part 2 of 'Coilover 101' courtesy of Bor Chuann in a few days...
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1532398

1) Yeah, I posted it up on other forums? So what? We are vendors on those other forums, but that still doesn't mean that it was advertising. If it was, as we are vendors, don't you think I would actually post them in the vendor section, list the price and tell the customers how to purchase? No, because this post wasn't meant for advertising



2) Yes, you are correct; You are being a troll



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Holy shit. I missed this.
Are there still people that believe it wasn’t advertising?
Not only did they lie about it they got all indignant when called out but there we have it.
He most likely didn’t even do the tests!

Of course you missed it; that's what trolls do.


1) I didn't lie, and there was nothing to call me out on. I told everyone in one of my posts (which you probably never read. Trolls will always pick and choose what to read) that these tests were done when a customer came in to upgrade his springs and requested us to do it for him. I have every right to post that up on our Facebook page, as I do on other forums where the information is genuinely appreciated by the community



2) Yes, I did do the test. That is our Intercomp spring rate tester. The only test I didn't do was the dyno test, which was provided to us by Swift, as we don't have a spring dyno.



Listen, I owe you jack $%^&, and the other poster was correct; I don't need to explain myself to trolls like you. There is no changing your mind, as you simply don't want it to be changed. You just want to troll.


Well, you succeeded. I will no longer reply or even bother with this thread. I was planning on uploading more results (from other brands) later this week, but seeing as the links to our other threads are posted up, you can just check them out instead.
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Listen, I owe you jack $%^&, and the other poster was correct; I don't need to explain myself to trolls like you.
Lols. Calling Tcoat a troll.

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