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11-08-2015, 11:52 AM | #85 |
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100 series v6, idk if they make diff trims, but that car is heavy as heck! Test drove those in '08/'09 as a candidate vs a TT quatro and neither made me like 'em. Only one that worked was the old M3 series but it sold for like 36k.
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I think there's a few factors that would play into the 'which would be easier to live with' game that it seems you're in. How long do you plan to own it? Do you plan to autox/track it? Modify it? Road trips? If it's a car you see yourself owning for <5 years (ok maybe a few more if you are happy with it and grow accustomed to the maintenance and general upkeep and future potential problems but you can decide that later) and you have no intention of track/autox or modify, I'd take the BMW hands down, it'll be a blast off the showroom floor and do everything well. If it's a car you plan on changing and driving hard or for a long time, odds are warranty is out the window, you'll be paying out of pocket for many repairs, services, and upgrades to keep it in reliable shape. The 86's strong aftermarket and low running costs are a winner. Odds are you'll want a mix between the two, neither will do you wrong. I've had my 86 for 43k miles, almost 3 years, about a dozen autocrosses, 6 full track days and the only issue so far has been coilpack failures, a little over $100 and an hour or so of labor in my driveway. |
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Finally, I just wanted to say that I thought I preferred the BMW community and forums due to the vast amount of enthusiasts, after market support, etc, that I've encountered in the past 2 decades of BMW ownership, but after having spent a couple of weeks here, I'm noticing that the FT86 community and aftermarket support meets and even surpasses the BMW support (especially in aftermarket support). I'm amazed at how knowledgeable members here are about their cars, and how many members do things and work on their cars that many with BMWs wouldn't even dare touch. (Transmission work, etc). Maybe that's just a testament as to how easy these cars are to work with. |
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11-08-2015, 06:23 PM | #88 |
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I own both. The 86 is mine, and my wife drives the 128. Hers is an auto but I've driven a manual one (contemplated it before I bought the fr-S)
Here is what I can tell you: It's a great "all arounder" car. It's more comfortable, has a much better engine, a great trunk and slightly more usable back seat. The build quality is far better. The paint seems 6x thicker. It'd be an amazing DD - fun enough to be special, but as comfortable as you'd ever need. However, I don't put it in the same league as a "sports car" as the 86. The body control, the balance, the handling, the steering and the reaponsiveness are in another world than the BMW. Don't get me wrong, the BMW is great, just not amazing at those things. You could spend a few grand on an 86 and make it faster in a straight line than the 128, but no amount of money would mKe the BMW a true lightweight sports car. My 128 is an auto, non-m sport and doesn't have a LSD. I realize all of these things would make it better, but that's a much more expensive 128. And that would still not handle and turn as well as an 86 with better tires. Her car would kill mine on the highway, but in any kind of "real" driving it wouldn't stand a chance against my car. I brought hers to autoX once and it was.... Amusing. It needed a 400lb diet, better seats (and the aforementioned manual trans and lsd) before it could consider being as good as my fr-S. If you want a responsive sports car, buy the 86. If you just want a cool car to cruise around in and park? Buy the BMW. |
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It sounds like you're not looking to run it super hard, I'd say go on long test drives of both, something more crucial like the steering feel or NVH or seat comfort will matter more in day to day use than the chance of being the 1/1,000 person that gets the catastrophic issue. |
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I have a feeling that as we move into the future that's going to be the route all cars will be taking, sure there will still be work-around options but maybe that'll be pricey also. Maybe it'll be the strong re-emergence of standalone shops as a solid option... someone will always find a way to do it cheaper. Who knows, but I digress.. Everyone has been saying pretty much the same thing. The BMW would be the better car for short term/non-abusive ownership. Can it take some of the battery? Sure. Can it take it as well as the twins? Yes and No. Are the twins the better car for the enthusiast. Undeniably so. Is the 128i (now the 228i to be honest) the more practical and comfortable answer. Yup, but everything at a cost. When I think of what I would like out of my FRS/BRZ as far as creature comforts go... the only thing I end up designing in my head is a Porsche
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This is the tipping point. If I didn't do either in mine, I would rather have the 128 all day long. There is no time wasted deciding which car goes on a road trip, lol. You've definitely got your solution. Enjoy! The baby "Bimmer" is a great car.
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I picked up a 128i after my '15 frs died. It's different to be sure. The steering on my model is not electric assist and the fatter tires plus run flat made it feel less nimble than the frs. But it certainly gripped going around corners on the accelerator. The thing I enjoy more about the 128i is the torque. But I miss the precise and nimble handling of the frs.
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