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12-21-2011, 05:24 AM | #1 |
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Is the tC still relevant?
Is there really room for two sporty coupes in the Scion lineup? Aside from having a larger rear seat/trunk and a more forgiving ride, I see no other point on having the tC in the Scion lineup. Anyone else think Scion should eliminate the tC and slot the FR-S at the $19,305 price point the tC currently occupies?
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For us it might not be but for the general consumer, yes, the tC is very relevant. It has more space/comfort yet looks sleek combining fine points of every car in next year's Scion line-up. It's like in-between the Camry and Corolla (it was originally based on the Avensis) so the value is still awesome.
(Edit: Shouldn't this be in the Other Cars forum?)
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Don't forget that a lot of people don't care if it's fwd or rwd. And some even prefer fwd because it's supposedly safer/easier to drive.
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^It IS safer/easier to drive. I've seen experimental data and statistics showing FWD is objectively safer than RWD in rain/snow.
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You are forgetting the price tag and cup holders are the most important factors in choosing a car for most people. And not necessarily in that order.
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Good to know there is data to back up the common assumption. By saying 'supposedly' I didn't mean that I didn't agree with the claim, just that I wasn't sure there's actual proof.
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Appropriate tires and prudent driving seem safer to me. Besides, Scion still has the xB, xD and iQ in the lineup all driven by the front wheels. |
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Saying use good tires and to being smart is a bad argument when the average motorist runs stock (all seasons) and doesn't know or care about proper driving technique and handling. |
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tC was *never* relevant.
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The people who buy rear wheel drive cars like Mustangs, Corvettes, Camaros, etc. etc. etc. are not a representative sample of the car-driving population at large. I bet they'd smash into things a lot more than the average driver even if they were forced to drive tC's... |
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I'm inclined to agree. If one has the proper weight balance to the rear wheels to provide tire grip then engine placement is irrelevant. I'd argue it's safer to have a rwd car for that reason. Also, fwd cars provide catastrophic under steer and annoying torque steer.
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