No.1 trifecta - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MitchB · 12-23-2012, 09:36 AM

1. Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ ($25,710 for FR-S, base and as tested; $28,265 for BRZ as tested) To me, the highest accomplishment is designing a special car that nearly any new-car buyer can afford. This pair of genuine sports cars — virtual twins jointly developed by Toyota and Subaru — seem destined for a place on the list of affordable classics, alongside the original VW Beetle, Ford Mustang and Mazda Miata. Beautiful, smartly detailed and thrilling, the BRZ and FR-S make their roughly $26,000 price seem like a misprint.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/12/23/automobiles/autoreviews/23ulrich-slides-10.html

1. Subaru BRZ ($26,265 base, $28,265 as tested) Like the nearly identical Scion FR-S, the BRZ is a bracing antidote to the technology-encrusted cars that are sanitizing, homogenizing and digitizing the driving experience. The BRZ’s chassis, steering, brakes and manual gearbox are all beyond reproach, and a compact boxer engine helps to keep the car low, balanced and planted on the pavement. It’s all so simple and yet, aside from a clunky optional infotainment system, so close to perfect.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/12/23/automobiles/23cobb-slides-10.html

1. Scion FR-S ($25,710 base, $24,955 as tested) Is the FR-S Toyota’s attempt to atone for ruining the Celica? If so, all is forgiven. Tight and precise with more than adequate powertrain performance, a racy rear-wheel-drive platform, stellar handling, a modicum of good looks and a fair price make the FR-S the brightest star of the year. Working together, Toyota and Subaru have produced new models more impressive than the cars they’ve come up with on their own.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/12/23/automobiles/autoreviews/23garrett-slides-10.html

mashal · 12-23-2012, 09:49 AM

Toyota's attempt?

This is Toyota's car .. And Subaru's attempt

Superhatch · 12-23-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mashal

Toyota's attempt?

This is Toyota's car .. And Subaru's attempt

I think you might have misread something. The Toyota's attempt line made perfect sense to me. It actually says the same thing you do, that it's Toyota's car. The writer is theorizing that Toyota making the FR-S is their (i.e. Toyota's) attempt at fixing what they did to the Celica. Not sure what you're talking about or how that became a battle between Toyota and Subaru.

It seems the NYT really likes our cars.

Turbowned · 12-23-2012, 10:37 AM

Oh give it a rest, it's Toyota AND Subaru's attempt. The New York Times' writer doesn't need to know everything about how the car was developed in writing a two-paragraph review. He just has to write about how awesome they are

mashal · 12-23-2012, 10:42 AM

Ahh re-read it, now it makes sense

MitchB · 12-23-2012, 01:23 PM

Oyy, what's with you guys?

Just bask in the glory!

clayrush · 12-23-2012, 03:07 PM

i am biast, but explane how the celica was ruined

12-23-2012, 09:36 AM	#1
MitchB Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited, 6MT, GBS Location: the Bronx Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No.1 trifecta 1. Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ ($25,710 for FR-S, base and as tested; $28,265 for BRZ as tested) To me, the highest accomplishment is designing a special car that nearly any new-car buyer can afford. This pair of genuine sports cars — virtual twins jointly developed by Toyota and Subaru — seem destined for a place on the list of affordable classics, alongside the original VW Beetle, Ford Mustang and Mazda Miata. Beautiful, smartly detailed and thrilling, the BRZ and FR-S make their roughly $26,000 price seem like a misprint. http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/12/23/automobiles/autoreviews/23ulrich-slides-10.html 1. Subaru BRZ ($26,265 base, $28,265 as tested) Like the nearly identical Scion FR-S, the BRZ is a bracing antidote to the technology-encrusted cars that are sanitizing, homogenizing and digitizing the driving experience. The BRZ’s chassis, steering, brakes and manual gearbox are all beyond reproach, and a compact boxer engine helps to keep the car low, balanced and planted on the pavement. It’s all so simple and yet, aside from a clunky optional infotainment system, so close to perfect. http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/12/23/automobiles/23cobb-slides-10.html 1. Scion FR-S ($25,710 base, $24,955 as tested) Is the FR-S Toyota’s attempt to atone for ruining the Celica? If so, all is forgiven. Tight and precise with more than adequate powertrain performance, a racy rear-wheel-drive platform, stellar handling, a modicum of good looks and a fair price make the FR-S the brightest star of the year. Working together, Toyota and Subaru have produced new models more impressive than the cars they’ve come up with on their own. http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/12/23/automobiles/autoreviews/23garrett-slides-10.html

12-23-2012, 09:49 AM	#2
mashal DADA Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Location: Kanada Posts: 1,500 Thanks: 47 Thanked 388 Times in 249 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota's attempt? This is Toyota's car .. And Subaru's attempt

12-23-2012, 10:42 AM	#5
mashal DADA Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Location: Kanada Posts: 1,500 Thanks: 47 Thanked 388 Times in 249 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ahh re-read it, now it makes sense

12-23-2012, 01:23 PM	#6
MitchB Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited, 6MT, GBS Location: the Bronx Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oyy, what's with you guys? Just bask in the glory!

12-23-2012, 03:07 PM	#7
clayrush Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: FRS,09 370z, 00 CelicaGT-S, 85 300Z Location: SF Bay/vallejo Posts: 653 Thanks: 1,258 Thanked 280 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	i am biast, but explane how the celica was ruined

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