New Rumor: Subaru Developing Turbo 4 2.0T for BRZ

[dabocx]

This is most likely the millionith topic about a Turbo BRZ.

Personally i think i wont ever happen, if it does it wont be for another 2-3 years and be ridiciously expensive 35k+

[QFry]

there is already a FA20 Subaru DI twinscroll turbo motor in the JDM LGT (http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/05...-gets-new.html) if they wanted it in the BRZ it would have already been there...

[nedmundo]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

A Tokyo reveal would push the car into a 2014 calendar year production and probably a 2015 model year designation.

This makes sense, and FWIW, a Subaru salesman who had attended a presentation on the BRZ told me the STI version would appear for the 2015 MY. He said nothing about the upgrades it would include.

[Guff]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

Back to the TARRBOOOE!
...not going to happen.
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Omg. Nostalgia.


I miss the good ol days.

[Beyer Subaru]

This just in from a source "The 2015 1/2 BRZ will be powered by nuclear power. It has been in discussion between Toyota and Subaru for some time now but they have finally come to an agreement.
This new nuclear powered mill will actually be capable of time travel and teleportation between different dimensions"

IBTL.

[tachi1247]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

Even if I could suspend disbelief for a second I just don't see this mythical BRZ "turbo" coming out as a 2014 model year car. The current BRZ is already a 2013 model year vehicle which would mean Subaru would need to reveal the "turbo" this auto show season.

Granted Subaru does have a history of showing STi production models at the New York auto show which ends the season and is right before summer when Subie could concievably put the turbo on sale as a 2014, but I would think they would like to hold that bomb shell for their home turf and the Tokyo auto show at the end of 2013. A Tokyo reveal would push the car into a 2014 calendar year production and probably a 2015 model year designation.

First, they don't have to have a new model year to release a new trim level. They could launch a STi model anytime during the 2014 production run and call it a 2014. Assuming the 2014 BRZ arrives in Aug/Sept of 2013 they could still release a turbo in January 2014.

Second, they don't have to "reveal" the car at a U.S. autoshow. They could do it at Geneva next September as a worldwide release like Ferrari does with many of its vehicles.

Third, they don't have to release the car at an autoshow at all. I don't recall there being a big reveal when they decided to bring the WRX STi over to the U.S. They also could have their own private event where they invite the media somewhere in order to get more press attention. I think were going to start seeing less cars unveiled at autoshows in order to keep them in the spotlight longer. Kind of what Apple started doing years ago to showcase their products and not get lost in the shuffle of everyone else's new products and news coming out of the show.

[MVJ1975]

Originally Posted by Beyer Subaru

This just in from a source "The 2015 1/2 BRZ will be powered by nuclear power. It has been in discussion between Toyota and Subaru for some time now but they have finally come to an agreement.
This new nuclear powered mill will actually be capable of time travel and teleportation between different dimensions"

IBTL.

Cool. Can I use it to go back and find the guy in the Honda focus group meeting that said "durr hurr, let's make the CRZ a hybrid" and beat him to death with a rubber mallet?

[K2]

Originally Posted by Beyer Subaru

This just in from a source "The 2015 1/2 BRZ will be powered by nuclear power. It has been in discussion between Toyota and Subaru for some time now but they have finally come to an agreement.
This new nuclear powered mill will actually be capable of time travel and teleportation between different dimensions"

I just came back to gloat.

[Beyer Subaru]

Dammit. I just put in my order and I thought I was gonna be the first W16 Diesel nuclear powered BRZ.

[Cessblood]

Subaru Australia spokesman David Rowley says he is unaware of a factory effort to turbocharge the BRZ. "They haven't told us anything along those lines

http://canberratimes.drive.com.au/mo...023-282ju.html

[jmaryt]

gonna happen! why? money!
they know you will buy it!
whether it makes sense or not!
don't matter! get your "coin" ready!

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

HONDA ACCORD EX: $25,025

• Audio Touch Screen
• One-Touch Power Moonroof with Tilt Feature
• Smart Entry System
• Fog Lights
• Multi-Angle Rearview Camera with Guidelines
• Engine Start/Stop Button
• Dual-Zone Automatic Climate Control with Air-Filtration System
• SMS Text Message Function[5]
• Illuminated Steering Wheel-Mounted Cruise, Audio, Phone and i-MID Controls

SCION FR-S: $24,995

• Sport Pedals
• Torsen Limited Slip Differential
• Lower Center of gravity than any car other than the Lexus LFA and Ferrari 360
• Electric Power-Steering
• 2750lb Curb Weight due to lightweight materials vs 3192 in accord
• Rear Wheel Drive
• Large Bolster Racing Type Seats

Good job on the FEATURES comparo...at least one of you ignored the Accord part and concentrated on what I was saying instead.

I disagree on the cost of engineering the LCoG aspect though and countered it with all the NVH of the other vehicle.

The curb weight comes down to physical size more than anything else, and incidentally the Honda is lighter than the previous model by about 100lbs...so Honda also spent money decreasing weight, if we are going to include weight savings a an added cost.

The electric steering according to the videos lacks a physical part that other cars w/o electric steering require. It could be argued that it is actually the cheaper method. I don't have that answer though.

Does changing the style of the seat make it cost more? Yes, I know aftermarket seats certainly do, but that doesn't mean they actually cost more to produce, only that the profit margin is larger. Which brings me right back to the whole point I was making in the first place and that was that the twins are at maximum price, and adding a turbo would be difficult to do and keep the car in a respectable price range when compared to vehicles that are in direct competition(NOT the Accord which was used only as a reference to features).

Originally Posted by tripjammer

There will never get a Scion FR-S Turbo, maybe...only maybe a BRZ Turbo. They will only make like 3000 of them per year and sell everyone of them. The FR-S at $25k is still a good deal. This BRZ Turbo will be in the mid to upper $30k range.

I agree on both parts. That was my intention with all my posts in this thread...there won't be one and I believe that is because of the price range it would have to fall into, not a mechanical or engineering issue. It is a good deal, that's why I'm still shopping for one, but it doesn't change the fact that they definitely could have still made money on the twins selling at $23k-$24k, rather than $25k. At some point people will start saying "I can get X for the same price".

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Way to f*ck up this thread guys. You should have just ignored the moron talking about Accords but no...

FFS

Blow me.

[OrbitalEllipses]

New rumor: We'll have a TERBO thread every week, complete with trolling and the same shit we've heard since before time!

[jonnyozero3]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

New rumor: We'll have a TERBO thread every week, complete with trolling and the same shit we've heard since before time!

Canceled due to copyright restrictions.

Edit: Oops, thought you said TEBO.