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gymratter · 06-07-2019, 01:56 PM

before someone starts yet another "2nd gen 86 thread". another Bestcar report via google translation.

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/74066

Quote:

This fall held Tokyo Motor Show 2019 Toyota exhibit model fastest information !!!

Will the "NEW 86 concept" also appear?
You can also expect to see a concept car that will give you an idea of the second generation 86. The second generation 86 is under development under the name of prototype type "860B" and is scheduled to debut in 2021.

Of course, BRZ also appears in co-development with Subaru as well as the current type. The platform is a carryover from the current model, and there is no change in being the FR of the vertically placed horizontally opposed 4-cylinder engine.

　However, the engine has increased its displacement from the current 2L to 2.4L, improving power and torque. The spec is likely to be about 220ps maximum power and 24.0-25.0kgm maximum torque.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 06-07-2019, 02:59 PM

whaaaaa

Dadhawk · 06-07-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratter

before someone starts yet another "2nd gen 86 thread". another Bestcar report via google translation.

Isn't "860B" a Toyota V6 engine?

ichitaka05 · 06-07-2019, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Isn't "860B" a Toyota V6 engine?

SKU of 3MZFE... but yes, you're correct.

HachiRokuX · 06-07-2019, 04:16 PM

If they add more power and give the cars a better interior, push button start standard, better front bumpers etc, it could be a real winner.

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gymratter · 06-07-2019, 04:25 PM

before someone asks how creditable Bestcar is, like with any publication they have hits and misses. they were pretty spot on when it came to the Supra tho.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/mkv...magazine.1799/

alan.chalkley · 06-07-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky

After inflation and the cost to maintain and store it, you should break even around the year 2069.

No , 2086 will be the magic year!

PetrolioBenzina · 06-07-2019, 04:58 PM

I'm taking over production of the 86. It will be called the PB87, can't release any other info yet.

NARFALICIOUS · 06-07-2019, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

I'm taking over production of the 86. It will be called the PB87, can't release any other info yet.

Will it come in blue, yes or maybe?

extrashaky · 06-07-2019, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS

Will it come in blue, yes or maybe?

It will definitely come in maybe. Not sure about blue or yes.

PetrolioBenzina · 06-08-2019, 02:17 PM

Color choices:

86MLR · 06-08-2019, 08:25 PM

And the price of the new and improved Twins with turbo power, shiny buttons, quite premium interior, fully adjustable suspension, faster than a Cayman, better looking than a 370Z, more reliable than a ....... Toyota from the 70's...... is a low $50k USD, or $71k AUD.............

You still buying?

evoto86 · 06-08-2019, 08:41 PM

Toyota and Subaru should be giving us wider range of choice when it comes to engine packages if they doing it on the Supra they should do it on the 86/BRZ.

Yoshoobaroo · 06-08-2019, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by evoto86

Toyota and Subaru should be giving us wider range of choice when it comes to engine packages if they doing it on the Supra they should do it on the 86/BRZ.

Except the Supra is literally twice as expensive. Multiple engine options cost R&D money, which needs to be recuperated, and since the base engine is typically the most popular, it will hike the price of the base model.

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86MLR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto Location: Sydney Posts: 2,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	And the price of the new and improved Twins with turbo power, shiny buttons, quite premium interior, fully adjustable suspension, faster than a Cayman, better looking than a 370Z, more reliable than a ....... Toyota from the 70's...... is a low $50k USD, or $71k AUD............. You still buying? __________________ Disclaimer: This post represents the official views of the voices in my head at the time of posting. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133311 I'm only here for the biscuits

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