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Old 06-14-2019, 08:52 PM   #309
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A lotus elise/exige is a third car in the garage. It handles like a go kart, low to the ground and has a gem of a motor (That Toyota 2ZZ-GE!). It does have a small trunk and a passenger seat, but its super impractical.....

-Getting in and out is a chore for even a short person (the car is tiny). Its like getting and sitting inside a bathtub through a window opening that is as high as your waist.
-Once inside its got pretty comfortable but thin seats, and hardly any if at all amenities, so everything's exposed.
-Its probably loud as hell inside...but I think the 2ZZ motor makes up for it.
-It has a trunk...that fits stuff....but its not very big.
-depending on how wide you are you are most likely going to be intruding into the passenger shoulder space.

You'd have to compromise a lot to make it work as a daily driver. Occasional fun car? hell yeah. Trying to daily it? hell naw.

Or you could get a BRZ or the like and half nearly the same experience with vastly more comfort, and quite frankly much less money.
With that said i'd love an Exige/Elise with the 2ZZ, not the later ones with the supercharged 1ZZ Hell i'd even look at an Evora if I want something a bit more "exotic'y"
The very reason I bought an FRS was because I wanted the nimble driving package of my 240Z and 914 in a DD - and I was not disappointed!
I can't think of another car that fits that bill for me, not now anyway.
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Old 06-14-2019, 09:52 PM   #310
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Does the UK , certain European countries impose extra taxes on engines that are over 2L ? Sorry, I should google that one
I learned that 2L is the cutoff for a "small" car in Japan. That puts the discussion into perspective.
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I learned that 2L is the cutoff for a "small" car in Japan. That puts the discussion into perspective.
That makes sense. If you're a high roller in Japan that wants to drive a V6 / V8 Toyota or Lexus , they can afford those extra taxes. Then there is the 30k mile cut off in Japan, pretty sure all cars / engines get turned in by that point ( 30k) for emission standards / laws.

I wonder what would happen in the US , if the US laws were similar to Japan ?!?! Pure bedlam / pandamonia / anarchy at that point. Red necks would run for the hills in their trucks yelling " Wolverines" = Red Dawn Pt. 2 , and surely some with V6 / V8 would give up their rigs for smaller engines. Lots…and lots of gas would be saved in the process , but there would be sacrifices to be made in order to reach that point. Maybe that's just it, it could be right around the bend … government imposed restrictions . Car manufactures have the EPA to deal with , but what's to say our government puts the smack-down on us common folk…. to impose a engine size restriction.
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Size restrictions I get but does an engine really go to shit and start polluting at 30k? Seems more like a money grab to me.
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