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Old 02-20-2020, 09:12 AM   #29
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You guys are crushing my dreams of doing a built (forged rods, pistons, rod/main bearings, etc) and having a more reliable 500+ capable turbo build...

I was going to go with Revworks to do the build which is the shop that James Martin recommends.. and have him be the tuner. Sounded like a recipe for success to me.

Now you got me thinking I should just do a swap.. as if the fa20s just can't be put together in any way that's bullet proof .. like my darling 2JZ

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The reason the 2jz lasts at increased power levels is because nobody reports to an active forum when their build blows up.

Your stock motor could be reliable at 500+whp, if you never actuate the gas pedal and drive gently
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The reason the 2jz lasts at increased power levels is because nobody reports to an active forum when their build blows up.

Your stock motor could be reliable at 500+whp, if you never actuate the gas pedal and drive gently
It is also a 30 year old iron block low compression engine with sloppy internals that can forgive a lot of stress that tighter tolerance engines can't. There were loads of engines back then that could take power but they were not mentioned in movies so don't have the same legends around them.
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The reason the 2jz lasts at increased power levels is because nobody reports to an active forum when their build blows up.

Your stock motor could be reliable at 500+whp, if you never actuate the gas pedal and drive gently
I owned a 2jz, 8000rpm 93 octane 75hp shot of nitrous on 25lbs of boost with a gt42 with a 76mm minor. Fan relay quit working overheated it at the track it backfired a couple of times at launch. Let it cool down and ran it couple more times into the 5s in the 1/8. I did notice a sound from the engine but it still ran great.
Sold it 2 months later. Then one of fuel pumps sprung a leak and burnt two pistons. Took it apart and replaced the pistons and was almost done and noticed the rod I was starting to put back in was bent. Took the rest of the rods out and 4 was bent. End of story all bearings were fine looked brand new.
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When I first put it together I was in the burn out box wondering what that weird sound was, looked at the tach and it was hitting the rev limit bouncing, engine was so smooth that I couldn't feel it.
2jz are awesome. 1100 hp stock rods,stock head gasket, stock head bolts, block, head, pistons, oil pump and valve springs. Cams were the only thing that wasn't stock in the long block
2jz is one of the strongest if not the strongest engine ever made
If you blow it up you should get a metal of some kind.

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2jz is one of the strongest if not the strongest Japanese engine ever made
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Some of the old Chev and Chrysler V8s and straight sixs would live through things that would make even the 2JZ pack it in. Don't even get me started on what an old Dodge slant 6 could live through.
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Some of the old Chev and Chrysler V8s and straight sixs would live through things that would make even the 2JZ pack it in. Don't even get me started on what an old Dodge slant 6 could live through.
You mean the slant 6 with the exhaust under the intake?
2jz is no joke.
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So the consensus seems to be that I would be better off just buying a used long block and direct swapping it into the car.

If I do a direct long block swap from a salvage, what else does that entail? New tune? What?

Did everyone see the video I posted of the engine starting after I blew it? It’s the second or third post in here. Surprised I haven’t heard more feedback from that!
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So the consensus seems to be that I would be better off just buying a used long block and direct swapping it into the car.

If I do a direct long block swap from a salvage, what else does that entail? New tune? What?

Did everyone see the video I posted of the engine starting after I blew it? It’s the second or third post in here. Surprised I haven’t heard more feedback from that!
Sounds like you spun a rod bearing. If that's what you want to know. Drain the oil and you will probably see metallic flakes may also be able to see them on the dipstick.
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You mean the slant 6 with the exhaust under the intake?
2jz is no joke.
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Never said it was a joke. Just that it isn't the bestest engine ever that it is claimed to be.
OH and let's be clear that not all 2JZ engines are GTEs. There are probably thousands and thousands of the lesser versions of the engines around than the GTE. All 2JZs are not created equal.
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Never said it was a joke. Just that it isn't the bestest engine ever that it is claimed to be.
OH and let's be clear that not all 2JZ engines are GTEs. There are probably thousands and thousands of the lesser versions of the engines around than the GTE. All 2JZs are not created equal.
The one i owned was a NA GE from a lexus with 66k on it when I bought it in a junkyard for $400.
Ge gte share crank, rods, block. ge head flows better.
Gte had oil squirter and lower compression.

I remember asking different dyno operators what was the highest hp cars they had on the dyno. The answer was always "believe or not it was a toyota" i was surprised the first couple of times.
I think the vvt 2jzs had a little lighter weaker rods.


And here is a video of my 2jz
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The one i owned was a NA GE from a lexus with 66k on it when I bought it in a junkyard for 400.

I remember asking different dyno operators what was the highest hp cars they had on the dyno. The answer was always "believe or not it was a toyota" i was surprised the first couple of times.
I think the vvt 2jzs had a little lighter weaker rods.


And here is a video of my 2jz
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Fingers crossed. I have a stage 2 IAG block going in. I hadn’t really heard much bad until now.
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Fingers crossed. I have a stage 2 IAG block going in. I hadnít really heard much bad until now.
I wouldn't worry. You usually hear the horror stories while the success ones drive around happily silent.
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Oh yea, the video i posted was with a gt4508(80mm minor) and a 175 shot of nitrous on the brake.
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A built motor has two advantages of lower compression and stronger rods.
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