Safe/reliable amount of Hp range for BRZ - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Howardwei · 07-21-2013, 10:22 AM

Hey Guys,
I just have a question for what is the safe amount of boost/Hp you can get on a BRZ without making a noticeable problem in terms of manufacture reliability.
"noticeable" I know any boost to engine would make it less but what is the safest except for factory tuned?

Thank you guys in advance.

lexusb3 · 07-21-2013, 10:30 AM

no one knows whats "safe" yet car is still to new!
im currently on 5-16psi depending on how my night is and how fast i want to drive and i have about 10,000 turbo miles and its still going!

xjohnx · 07-21-2013, 10:42 AM

It all depends on what you mean by safe and what degree of supporting mods you are comfortable/can afford to install.

Safe for the stock clutch?
Safe for the stock internals? If you mean this, Full Blown has a car pushing over 600whp on the stock FA20 internals.

dabocx · 07-21-2013, 11:31 AM

Someone write one of those "So you want boost?" posts and sticky it

As said above do you want to keep the stock clutch or fuel system?

lexusb3 · 07-21-2013, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjohnx

It all depends on what you mean by safe and what degree of supporting mods you are comfortable/can afford to install.

Safe for the stock clutch?
Safe for the stock internals? If you mean this, Full Blown has a car pushing over 600whp on the stock FA20 internals.

so true because i had to change my clutch so many things go into play...but anyways what ever happened to that "600"hp car? do you know i been going thru threads trying to find updates

xjohnx · 07-21-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lexusb3

so true because i had to change my clutch so many things go into play...but anyways what ever happened to that "600"hp car? do you know i been going thru threads trying to find updates

looks like it's still being developed, may have even more power, at least as of a few weeks ago:

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Originally Posted by Element Tuning

Hmmmm I wonder what the hold up is

Really looking to see how far they will push things...so I don't have to. LOL!

lexusb3 · 07-21-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx

looks like it's still being developed, may have even more power, at least as of a few weeks ago:

so im guessing they are building it instead of useing the stock block.. lol some times i feel like uping the boost to match that 600 but i dont have the balls hahaahh im already pushing it as it is lol !! thanks tho

Frs300 · 07-21-2013, 12:14 PM

has the 600hp car ever seen the pavement with that power?

Howardwei · 07-21-2013, 12:24 PM

I just want to supercharge it to about 250 horse, and was told you could keep the clutch stock and fuel sys.

BRZPDX · 07-21-2013, 12:50 PM

I'm shooting for 260whp, I think injectors and fuel pump will be a good idea. Don't skimp out on intercooler, water/air will be nice instead of just air/air. Meth injector will be nice for fail safe.

Drive train wise, I have an AT and sounds like it holds up better than MT according to some techs. I'd be concerned more about the rear diff (depending on how you drive, track/auto-x etc) and keeping the fluids cold with AT cooler and a oil cooler.

If this is your DD, I wouldn't recommend going FI for another year and see how people are holding up around the 30k mile mark after FI. It is too early to tell.

lexusb3 · 07-21-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZPDX

I'm shooting for 260whp, I think injectors and fuel pump will be a good idea. Don't skimp out on intercooler, water/air will be nice instead of just air/air. Meth injector will be nice for fail safe.

Drive train wise, I have an AT and sounds like it holds up better than MT according to some techs. I'd be concerned more about the rear diff (depending on how you drive, track/auto-x etc) and keeping the fluids cold with AT cooler and a oil cooler.

If this is your DD, I wouldn't recommend going FI for another year and see how people are holding up around the 30k mile mark after FI. It is too early to tell.

im already at 13,000ish in 3 months so ill def be around 30k very soon i drive alot and dyno and drift alot

Black86 · 07-21-2013, 02:15 PM

We need a boost by gear setup for our cars asap it would help so much with traction, add good tires in there and call it a day! on the other note for 600whp+ in these cars a built motor would def. be a good idea but look at Full Blown Motorsports they hit it on stock motor just a matter of how long it will last at it. I cant wait to make 400-450whp when I boost mine I think ill be happy with that for awhile!

Black86 · 07-21-2013, 02:17 PM

Sorry didnt know we were talking about the full blown car ^^ lol I want to see that car in action!

lexusb3 · 07-21-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Black86

We need a boost by gear setup for our cars asap it would help so much with traction, add good tires in there and call it a day! on the other note for 600whp+ in these cars a built motor would def. be a good idea but look at Full Blown Motorsports they hit it on stock motor just a matter of how long it will last at it. I cant wait to make 400-450whp when I boost mine I think ill be happy with that for awhile!

dont say that ull be happy for awhile my goal was 400 and i was supposed to be "done" with the car an then i saw how fast it feels and new goal is 800 it dont stop lol

07-21-2013, 10:22 AM	#1
Howardwei Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: Houston Posts: 165 Thanks: 17 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Safe/reliable amount of Hp range for BRZ Hey Guys, I just have a question for what is the safe amount of boost/Hp you can get on a BRZ without making a noticeable problem in terms of manufacture reliability. "noticeable" I know any boost to engine would make it less but what is the safest except for factory tuned? Thank you guys in advance.

07-21-2013, 02:15 PM	#12
Black86 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 Raven Black FR-S Location: Dayton,Ohio Posts: 180 Thanks: 7 Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	We need a boost by gear setup for our cars asap it would help so much with traction, add good tires in there and call it a day! on the other note for 600whp+ in these cars a built motor would def. be a good idea but look at Full Blown Motorsports they hit it on stock motor just a matter of how long it will last at it. I cant wait to make 400-450whp when I boost mine I think ill be happy with that for awhile! __________________ -Raven Black 13 FR-S : The daily driver -88 supra turbo : 2jz 66mm single on E85 in the process

07-21-2013, 02:17 PM	#13
Black86 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 Raven Black FR-S Location: Dayton,Ohio Posts: 180 Thanks: 7 Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sorry didnt know we were talking about the full blown car ^^ lol I want to see that car in action! __________________ -Raven Black 13 FR-S : The daily driver -88 supra turbo : 2jz 66mm single on E85 in the process

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lexusb3 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: FRS Location: florida Posts: 1,478 Thanks: 736 Thanked 570 Times in 434 Posts Mentioned: 110 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	no one knows whats "safe" yet car is still to new! im currently on 5-16psi depending on how my night is and how fast i want to drive and i have about 10,000 turbo miles and its still going!

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Howardwei Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: Houston Posts: 165 Thanks: 17 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just want to supercharge it to about 250 horse, and was told you could keep the clutch stock and fuel sys.

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