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Yep, over the decades I have watched many nice, light, sports cars slowly morph into bloated GT cruisers. Every single little "luxury" item they add moves the car one step closer to being more Eclipse or Genesis than Miata or S2000. Unfortunately when they decide to broaden the target audience for a car this is the easy route to go. The bulk of the car buying public wants all those extras and eventually they will give in and that will be the end of the car as we currently know it.
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Basically, none of the 5 dealerships I went to really wanted to sell me an 86/BRZ. |
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Speaking to the bloat of the WRX/STI, anyone thing that Ford really missed the mark to start a new rivalry between the Focus RS and the STI? AWD turbo sedans born out of Rally Racing? Or do you think that Ford simply doesn't care? Both vehicles have a similar price point with Ford having 45 extra ponies. Just seems like a great way to drive up interest for both brands.
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If I go in a dealer wanting Car A and they immediately trying to sell me Car B, I tell them once, I'm only interested in Car A. If they insist, I say thank you for your (non)help and leave.
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Thats what I mean, the winter tire/wheel combo included is one of the things that could really let them pick up where Mitsubishi (aka the most boring cars in America) left off.
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I tried to be patent, but got tired of swatting down their attempts to get me to drive a Corolla. Finally just said "Toyota only makes one car I have any interest in. If you don't want to sell it to me I'll go somewhere else." That fixed the problem.
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Before I bought the frs, I went to a miata dealer. He was totally disinterested. Finally I asked him to let me sit in the miata. Glad he did, my legs were too long for the car and the headliner seemed to poke me in the head. Instead of attempting to sell me the miata he said, just go buy a corvette. At least I was allowed to sit in the car and decided quickly that I needed to try the frs: great decision. After one year, I am still totally pleased.
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My experience was different, my dealer was happy to get me into my BRZ but to be fair, I was clear that I went there specifically to look at my car which was already sitting on the lot for a few months. The sales guys I dealt with were interested in a small RWD coupe which isn't something they normally deal with.
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I like the marketing Toyota is using. I hope that the sale work out the way they did back when the 2002 WRX came out. Subaru expected to sell less than 10,000 of those... They couldn't keep up with demand the first year and still managed to sell something like 15,000 of them.
I was in a place I didn't like when it came to cars in late 2012 early 2013. I thought I knew what I wanted, but wasn't getting the enjoyment out of those cars. I finally caved in and put serious thought and effort into my next car purchase. That was my FRs, and although I had to tweak it for my tastes it is about as perfect a car for me as possible. I'm glad these cars still exist. And I hope the marketing, production, and sales teams can evolve their goals so that the cars sell near 90% of production going forward so that this "project" stays alive for a long time. Just keep the technological bloat down, please.
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