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Old 09-18-2014, 01:13 PM   #603
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umm. a 2015 GT weighs 3705 lbs in manual trim..........

Wher are you getting "Lost 200 lbs"?
Yeah MT weighed their 2015 GT at 3814 lbs.

They're saying it's a 196 lb. increase from last year's similarly-equipped GT they tested.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...gt_first_test/
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Old 09-18-2014, 01:21 PM   #604
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I think what he's getting at is that expecting the rumoured 200lbs weight loss to come to fruition was wishful thinking in the first place - you just can't lose 200lbs on a car the size of a Mustang without raising prices significantly through the use of exotic materials.

I don't think he's saying that the Mustang ACTUALLY lost 200lbs (quite the opposite)
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Old 09-18-2014, 01:31 PM   #605
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He Was criticizing fords blatant ambitious dreams of loosing 200# without costing a billion dollars
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Old 09-18-2014, 01:35 PM   #606
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I think what he's getting at is that expecting the rumoured 200lbs weight loss to come to fruition was wishful thinking in the first place - you just can't lose 200lbs on a car the size of a Mustang without raising prices significantly through the use of exotic materials.
They did it on the F-150...
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Yeah MT weighed their 2015 GT at 3814 lbs.

They're saying it's a 196 lb. increase from last year's similarly-equipped GT they tested.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...gt_first_test/

I know. But I thought LSX meant the '15s lost 200lbs.
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Old 09-18-2014, 02:03 PM   #608
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I guess why some people feel disappointed is that Ford went on the record saying they were going to focus on dropping some weight on the incoming Mustangs. They've already got a great powerplant with the 5.0 and sure the IRS was never going to be leap years ahead of the solid axles in the back due to years of tweaking that set-up. They even hinted that the new Mustang would be slightly smaller than the outgoing model to help with the weight drop. I guess in the end it was all talk. Oh well, I'll just look at picking up a used 13/14 GT500 in a few years unless the new GT350 turns out to be a monster.
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I know. But I thought LSX meant the '15s lost 200lbs.
Yep I was agreeing with you
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Old 09-18-2014, 02:20 PM   #610
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i was hoping 3200 for the v8, 3100 for the v6, and 3000 for the i4turbo... NOT EVEN CLOSE ahaha. Big fat 3800lbs... damn!
First was a rumor for an unrealistic 400lbs weight drop, then 200lbs. In the end, it gained 200lbs in GT form.

The Great Ford Hype???
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Give me more of an idea here. Would the EcoBoost Stang give a GT86 a run for its money?

It wouldn't just give it a run, it would smash its face in. The new Stang has a stack more grip, more power, more torque and is an altogether bigger, faster car.
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Damn.... I thought they would have gey everything right cuz 2015 basically look like the Gigaro mustang concept back in 09...

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Old 09-18-2014, 03:51 PM   #613
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Complete disagreement with most peoples reaction to the reviews. I came very close to buying a 2014 but I changed my mind because the steering felt more loose than I would like. Honestly, my truck steering felt tighter. Most of the reviews say steering is much improved over the outgoing model. I look forward to test driving one of these. The only thing left is to get over the fear of a first model year ford...


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Give me more of an idea here. Would the EcoBoost Stang give a GT86 a run for its money?
It wouldn't just give it a run, it would smash its face in. The new Stang has a stack more grip, more power, more torque and is an altogether bigger, faster car.
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They did it on the F-150...
That's because the F150 was grossly overweight before, having used a steel body. The F150 could lose it because the weight was there to lose. The Mustang was already as trim as it could affordably be, and then they added a whole lot more moving parts to the back of it. The only way to trim the pounds would be to make the whole car smaller, but that is not the car they wanted to bring to market.



Additionally, I don't buy the rumor mill. Half the time I feel like someone in the office of Motor Car and Track goes "wouldn't it be nice if" and then goes and writes a puff piece that he knows he's going to get paid for. Like the mid-engine Corvette that Car and Driver has been promising for 20 years now. I don't place responsibility for that nonsense with the manufacturer. I place it with irresponsible journalists.
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Give me more of an idea here. Would the EcoBoost Stang give a GT86 a run for its money?

It wouldn't just give it a run, it would smash its face in. The new Stang has a stack more grip, more power, more torque and is an altogether bigger, faster car.
Pat is missing the point. There are a lot of bigger and faster cars than the '86. People don't buy an '86 because they prioritize bigger and faster. '86 buyers prioritize smaller and more agile and then add power (F.I.) and grip (tires) if they feel the need.

The Mustang is more of a Camaro/Corvette-lite, where the '86 is more akin to a Elise/Cayman-lite. I don't see why so many auto-journalists miss this very obvious point.
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