Ohlins Road & Track for FRS/BRZ suspension install/review thread - Page 18 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mav1178 · 12-30-2015, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocWalt

Did you use the Ohlins spacers with the Whiteline end links?

Yes.

ajc209 · 01-07-2016, 08:35 AM

Well these are might impressive for the level of comfort they offer. Currently on 10 clicks which I preferred to 15 clicks. I noticed that on 10 clicks it is less understeer biased than 15 clicks. I'm running 400lb/in springs on the back though.

Got a track day in February to properly stretch their legs.

DocWalt · 01-07-2016, 09:34 AM

I too bumped my stiffness up from 15 clicks. 12/13 f/r. I might go a bit stiffer, too.

My winter tires have almost no sidewall stiffness so when I hit a bump I can feel a hit when the tire hits, then another jolt when it loads the suspension. I noticed the same with the OEM suspension but it was obviously a LOT softer.

I've noticed that the car pretty much doesn't understeer anymore. It's really hard to judge much on the winter tires though, they're so mushy.

SHIFTEVO · 01-07-2016, 02:11 PM

They're quality stuff..can't go wrong with them for all applications....

lipidsnake · 01-08-2016, 06:47 PM

Found out from Prospeed here in Aus that the 60/60 N/mm kits with camber tops are no longer available. Instead, they are selling 40/40 (different to the 40/30 reported here previously?) without camber tops.

However you can order springs with custom rates to suit at a very reasonable price, and at a discount when purchased with the coils.

Want to pick up a set soon. Any recommendations on what spring rates suit? 60/60 like the old set or maybe stiffer perhaps?

ajc209 · 01-08-2016, 06:50 PM

Will the dampers be revalved to match? Otherwise I wouldnt deviate from standard rates more than 25%

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lipidsnake · 01-09-2016, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc209

Will the dampers be revalved to match? Otherwise I wouldnt deviate from standard rates more than 25%

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Would I be right to assume the shock valve specs haven't changed between the old and new kits? If so I may just stick to the old kit's 60/60

ajc209 · 01-09-2016, 06:28 PM

Im pretty sure it will have. Going 50% softer spring rate will mean it will be overdamped if they dont soften the damping

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lipidsnake · 01-09-2016, 07:33 PM

Mmm I think you are right, but I have reached out to Ohlins to confirm for everyone.

solidONE · 01-09-2016, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lipidsnake

Mmm I think you are right, but I have reached out to Ohlins to confirm for everyone.

While you're at it, you can tell them people on forum want the old setup and maybe you can at least get an explanation why they changed them up so drastically.

ajc209 · 01-09-2016, 11:56 PM

MaximT was supposed to get one. Never did. Maybe Ohlins USA will be more forthcoming...

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ajc209 · 01-10-2016, 04:52 AM

I'd love to know thier reasoning behind the softer rates. These dampers have limited stroke as it is and judging by the preload they run on those soft spring rates, the new kit is no better.....

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nikitopo · 01-10-2016, 06:46 AM

New specifications in Germany are also : 40N/mm front, 30N/mm rear. Very strange.

By the way, does anyone know how much lighter are they comparing to the OEM suspension?

ajc209 · 01-10-2016, 08:17 AM

There is a thread (this one?) Where they got weighed

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01-07-2016, 08:35 AM	#240
ajc209 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: GT86 Cosworth Location: UK Posts: 753 Thanks: 361 Thanked 270 Times in 188 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Well these are might impressive for the level of comfort they offer. Currently on 10 clicks which I preferred to 15 clicks. I noticed that on 10 clicks it is less understeer biased than 15 clicks. I'm running 400lb/in springs on the back though. Got a track day in February to properly stretch their legs.

01-07-2016, 09:34 AM	#241
DocWalt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: '22 BRZ Location: PA Posts: 1,833 Thanks: 2,299 Thanked 1,472 Times in 767 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I too bumped my stiffness up from 15 clicks. 12/13 f/r. I might go a bit stiffer, too. My winter tires have almost no sidewall stiffness so when I hit a bump I can feel a hit when the tire hits, then another jolt when it loads the suspension. I noticed the same with the OEM suspension but it was obviously a LOT softer. I've noticed that the car pretty much doesn't understeer anymore. It's really hard to judge much on the winter tires though, they're so mushy.

01-07-2016, 02:11 PM	#242
SHIFTEVO Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: Lightning Red Location: Houston TX Posts: 83 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	They're quality stuff..can't go wrong with them for all applications....

01-08-2016, 06:47 PM	#243
lipidsnake Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: White 86 Location: Sydney Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Found out from Prospeed here in Aus that the 60/60 N/mm kits with camber tops are no longer available. Instead, they are selling 40/40 (different to the 40/30 reported here previously?) without camber tops. However you can order springs with custom rates to suit at a very reasonable price, and at a discount when purchased with the coils. Want to pick up a set soon. Any recommendations on what spring rates suit? 60/60 like the old set or maybe stiffer perhaps?

01-08-2016, 06:50 PM	#244
ajc209 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: GT86 Cosworth Location: UK Posts: 753 Thanks: 361 Thanked 270 Times in 188 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Will the dampers be revalved to match? Otherwise I wouldnt deviate from standard rates more than 25% Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

01-09-2016, 06:28 PM	#246
ajc209 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: GT86 Cosworth Location: UK Posts: 753 Thanks: 361 Thanked 270 Times in 188 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Im pretty sure it will have. Going 50% softer spring rate will mean it will be overdamped if they dont soften the damping Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

01-09-2016, 07:33 PM	#247
lipidsnake Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: White 86 Location: Sydney Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mmm I think you are right, but I have reached out to Ohlins to confirm for everyone.

01-09-2016, 11:56 PM	#249
ajc209 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: GT86 Cosworth Location: UK Posts: 753 Thanks: 361 Thanked 270 Times in 188 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	MaximT was supposed to get one. Never did. Maybe Ohlins USA will be more forthcoming... Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

01-10-2016, 04:52 AM	#250
ajc209 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: GT86 Cosworth Location: UK Posts: 753 Thanks: 361 Thanked 270 Times in 188 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I'd love to know thier reasoning behind the softer rates. These dampers have limited stroke as it is and judging by the preload they run on those soft spring rates, the new kit is no better..... Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

01-10-2016, 06:46 AM	#251
nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,416 Thanked 1,944 Times in 1,261 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	New specifications in Germany are also : 40N/mm front, 30N/mm rear. Very strange. By the way, does anyone know how much lighter are they comparing to the OEM suspension?

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01-10-2016, 08:17 AM	#252
ajc209 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: GT86 Cosworth Location: UK Posts: 753 Thanks: 361 Thanked 270 Times in 188 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	There is a thread (this one?) Where they got weighed Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk