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Old 07-28-2019, 10:16 AM   #15
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Damn that ugly? Lol i love the fact that ďautomaticĒ is an insult now. Only thing I donít like is the front bumper. Looks kinda weird. Other than that, it looks pretty sweet to me. All subjective.
I had a whole week to ruminate on this. At first when they posted the official reveal pics, I was like ewww, then I was like hmm itís not that bad. The photographer worked hard to find good angles. But I saw videos of it in motion and pics of it Ďin the wildí and itís a mess. Headlights mounted too high up, reminding me of the Nissan Juke; weird lines all over the sides with too much going on, which is not so bad but they went and plastered that intake garnish thing which just goes too high and ends up looking like those fake vents people plaster all over their cars; and that rear end is atrocious. Also if you look at it from from front three quarters, the rear section looks very odd. Like itís too long or something. Having a wing mitigates that a bit. Again, if you look at all the professional studio pics, you can see they used angles and lighting to great effect to hide all these design flaws. But any pic of it on the street is gag inducing. Itís like if China made a mid engined corvette
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I had a whole week to ruminate on this. At first when they posted the official reveal pics, I was like ewww, then I was like hmm itís not that bad. The photographer worked hard to find good angles. But I saw videos of it in motion and pics of it Ďin the wildí and itís a mess. Headlights mounted too high up, reminding me of the Nissan Juke; weird lines all over the sides with too much going on, which is not so bad but they went and plastered that intake garnish thing which just goes too high and ends up looking like those fake vents people plaster all over their cars; and that rear end is atrocious. Also if you look at it from from front three quarters, the rear section looks very odd. Like itís too long or something. Having a wing mitigates that a bit. Again, if you look at all the professional studio pics, you can see they used angles and lighting to great effect to hide all these design flaws. But any pic of it on the street is gag inducing. Itís like if China made a mid engined corvette
Oh good point Iíve still not seen it in action, but Iím sure it would make a difference.
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Old 07-28-2019, 11:18 AM   #18
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Where can you buy a brand new 86 or BRZ for $22K USD?
hmmmmmm.... I seem to recall it goes for around 24k USD back in 2017 and if you buy it on October just before the snow fall some dealers will knock off an extra 2k to get rid of a sports car sitting around in winter.

I just checked today and the starting price 25,795 USD. I don't know if my memory is hazy or if the price went up.
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Donít they weigh around the same though (just under 3,400 pounds I think)? Iíve read that the Supra has 50:50 weight distribution as well. Iím not really one to go strictly off of numbers, but I doubt Iím ever driving either

I love the Supra interior. Itís bit of luxury in a Toyota sports car, but Iím sure the whole BMW thing is why the price is so high. The C8 Corvette interior is really something though haha I really like it. Iíve gotten used to the BRZ interior and itís acceptable for the price of the car lol

Why do you think the Supra is more comparable to the Mustang though? Not to beat a dead horse, but the Z4 seems like itís closest ďcompetitorĒ.
agility is not only related to weight. Weight distribution plays an important roll as well. That's why people buy 8000 USD carbonfiber wheels for unsprung weight. There's a lot of detail in car design.

Also never say never! one day you'll get um

The Supra was only made cheap thanks to BMW. Toyota officials stated somewhere that if they built the car all by themselves it would've been way more expensive.

I'd compare the Supra to the Mustang cause both are fast on paper but duller to drive in my opinion.
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I'd buy a C8, but, then people would say "there is another old man driving a Corvette".

When I get out of my FR-S, people say "there is an old man driving his son's car".

I get no respect either way.




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Except a VW Beetle, that's just pushing it too far...
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I had a whole week to ruminate on this. At first when they posted the official reveal pics, I was like ewww, then I was like hmm itís not that bad. The photographer worked hard to find good angles. But I saw videos of it in motion and pics of it Ďin the wildí and itís a mess. Headlights mounted too high up, reminding me of the Nissan Juke; weird lines all over the sides with too much going on, which is not so bad but they went and plastered that intake garnish thing which just goes too high and ends up looking like those fake vents people plaster all over their cars; and that rear end is atrocious. Also if you look at it from from front three quarters, the rear section looks very odd. Like itís too long or something. Having a wing mitigates that a bit. Again, if you look at all the professional studio pics, you can see they used angles and lighting to great effect to hide all these design flaws. But any pic of it on the street is gag inducing. Itís like if China made a mid engined corvette
You managed to articulate my issues with the C8 looks which I was too lazy to put in the effort to do.

Yet still I say I want to wait until I see it in the flesh and hope it looks good.

I mean, even the BRZ did not impress me that much in pictures until I saw it in the flesh and it was far more enticing a prospect. Here's hoping the same for the C8.
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The prevailing automotive styling trend is what I refer to as "Asian Clutter". The Supra and the C8 are different interpretations with similarly messy results. Contrast this with the "Rolling Art" of an E-Type Jaguar or Ferrari. Many stunning designs from the past came from the studios of Giugiaro and Pininfarina. Not just supercars but also daily drivers. To me, the twins are aesthetically preferable to either the Supra or the C8 at half the price. Would that stop me from buying either of them? Probably not but I was hoping for some cleaner lines and less clutter . . .
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Old 07-28-2019, 02:06 PM   #23
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Looks: too subjective I personally want to wait until I see it in the flesh but from online images I think it looks ugly from the rear and side rears but I can live with it.
The first pic of the production version I saw was the leaked shot of the rear end from inside the factory, in which it looked like a Camaro. Now I can't unsee the Camaro tail lights and Honda Civic "vent" panels. The C7 is a beautiful car, but the C8 is a design mess.

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Practicality: usable small rear seats for FT86 gets it here
I've been looking at video of the C8 trying to determine whether it would fit into my life as my next car, and I don't think my suit bag would fit in either of the storage areas. It's still amazing how much I can fit in the BRZ, as small as it is.

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I like it and would take it 10 out of 10 times over a Supra. Which will sell better in 2020?
Corvette. In fact, the C8 will siphon off customers that would have bought the Supra if it had been released in a different year. It's so much more car for the money.
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That's why you should buy the car that'll make you smile and never bother what people will think

Except a VW Beetle, that's just pushing it too far...
I had a 1967 VW beetle once, back in 1967, I drove in around through nine countries in Europe, it made me smile, of course, I made believe it was a Porsche -


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The first pic of the production version I saw was the leaked shot of the rear end from inside the factory, in which it looked like a Camaro. Now I can't unsee the Camaro tail lights and Honda Civic "vent" panels.
This is exactly what I saw and now cannot unsee !!
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I saw one in the wild for the first time today, in white. Rolling down Wayne Gretzky Parkway in brantford. Didnít see much as we were going opposite directions. I still donít care for the front end that much.
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I saw one in the wild for the first time today, in white. Rolling down Wayne Gretzky Parkway in brantford. Didnít see much as we were going opposite directions. I still donít care for the front end that much.

You saw a Corvette C8? are they already out in the wild?
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