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Old 08-30-2015, 12:32 AM   #15
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Hey wait a second here...
Didn't motoring.au and 20 copycat blogs already tell us that they had information from a "High ranking insider" that the last year was 2015?
That means the 16s don't really exist and the dealers must be scamming everybody. Spray two new colours on and slap a camera on all those unsold 15s and bam you have the 16s.
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...they were full of crap from the start.
I'm too innocent on the internets sometimes and gullible. I didn't think of that!~

Age range for my experiences are 18-24. Perhaps that's why...
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I'm too innocent on the internets sometimes and gullible. I didn't think of that!~

Age range for my experiences are 18-24. Perhaps that's why...
Age range for me is 18 to 70 so maybe on the average I hit more of the numbers are not everything crowd.
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Japanese sports car, they'll milk it until the dealers scream 'stop sending us these!', we will see a 2018 model at least and would not be surprising to see a 2020 model. Very typical, RX-8 went from '03-'12, S2k went from '99-'09, Miata gens last ~8 years, 350z '02-'09, MR2 averaged 8 years per gen as well, not to mention RX-7, Supra, Celica, 300zx, Integra, Prelude etc. all come in around 5-10 years, we've got another 2 years before questioning the end of the model imo. The real coin toss is whether or not a Gen 2 occurs and how aggressive the mid-cycle refresh will be.
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I'll hope it's limited, so I can get more when I sell it
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Are you planning on selling it in 50 years? That's the only way you'll make more than sticking it in a mutual fund and allowing the money to at least grow with inflation. If you wait 30 years you might have an investment equivalent to sticking that $30k-$40k (remember you can't let it fall into disrepair so include maintenance and storage in your "investment" costs) under your mattress...
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Are you planning on selling it in 50 years? That's the only way you'll make more than sticking it in a mutual fund and allowing the money to at least grow with inflation. If you wait 30 years you might have an investment equivalent to sticking that $30k-$40k (remember you can't let it fall into disrepair so include maintenance and storage in your "investment" costs) under your mattress...
Dont forget also leaving milage less than 100k. Then itd be 30k.
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We'll find out at @TMS 2015 or @NAIAS 2016. Either the car will get a facelift next year, or the car will get a special edition (with more power and less weight) or the car will get nothing (like most Toyotas and their 10 year life cycle).


For me it doesn't matter, because it will always be between the Toyota and the Mazda. And if the rumors of that the Toyota will be based on the Mazda, that is even better.
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the sooner the better..I always wanted a limited production car!
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Interesting remark in the video ... No after market exhaust was used.
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Keeping it around may convince other brands to come up with there own cheap lightweight performance car. So I hope it sticks around.
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it'll come down to the numbers
last I hearrd Toyota had sold about 250,000 of these things which isn't too shabby but mere bagatelle for a firm the size of Toyota
I'd say they'll offer a few more limited editions yet to try and 'jazz it up' who knows these may involve more poke ? which personally I think is all the car needs to lift the sales that and some better tyres and more attractive alloys
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I've read somewhere the new (body style) model to come out in 2018.

Surely many of you have read that source also.

Seems logical to me....5 years for our current body style...then a replacement.

This car is just so good, it'll be around for a while.
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I've read somewhere the new (body style) model to come out in 2018.

Surely many of you have read that source also.

Seems logical to me....5 years for our current body style...then a replacement.

This car is just so good, it'll be around for a while.
Unless what you are referencing came directly from Toyota or Subaru the it means nothing.
So far the blogs and click baits have said:
It will be discontinued after the 2015, 16 and 17 model years
The 16s would be turbo with 300hp
There is a convertible and targa for the 15 and 16 mys
The 16s will be made with BMW
The 16s will be made with Mazda
Toyota is dropping it
Subaru is dropping it
The BRZ is getting AWD in 2016
The body is changing in 2016, 17 or 18


All of these articles were based on secret info from some unnamed "insider", twisted around from out of contest quotes from real press releases or interviews or based upon the showing of a concept at some event.
There are a couple of sites that seem to start the rumours and then the rest add to and embellish them and just keep quoting each other as the "authority".
There are known references to speculation in this very forum that was used as "insider" info.
There is at least one known case where a 2013 article said the 15s would be turboed but when that didn't happen they just republished the same write up and changed the date to the 16 my.
In the meantime the only official things we published are a few weeks prior to each MY release.

Speculation can be fun but when people start putting to much trust in the blogs then the level of misinformation can go through the roof.
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