snap in harness

[Aluma007]

Hey y'all, wondering if anyone knows where I can find a red version of the Takata 74000US-0 drift harness I saw on amazon. It looks like it attached to the rear seat anchors I'm guessing some bolts under the seat. I do autocross once in a while and I'd like to try one out. The less expensive the better.
If you have one, please post pics of how its mounted too. Thank you!

[x808drifter]

CG Lock

[BigTuna]

Something free:

- When you're in your car before a run, scoot your seat back and pull the belt tight across your lap.
- Give the upper part of the belt, at your shoulder a quick yank to lock it.
- While keeping tension on the belt, scoot your seat forward to your normal position.
- The seatbelt should be tight across your body and the tension keeps it locked.

[churchx]

BigTuna: PITA to do for every 15min session.

[JoeC]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

CG Lock

I'll second this. I have one and like it.

[churchx]

I'd wish for someone to design/make cg-lock alike to pretension & fix belt at shoulder area aswell though. So far BigTuna's mentioned method with stock harness seems only way . CG-lock does it's job for lap part, but not for neck/shoulder upper belt part.

[Aluma007]

yeah, thats what I was thinking...the shoulder belt tends to dig into my neck and its annoying as hell. I had seen the cg lock, but didn't think it'd do anything about the neck area, so I went looking for something like the snap in harness. I've done the other things to try to keep it snug but its not enough...I guess it can't keep that much mass in place. :P
Then there's the helmet hits the liner thing, but there's not much to do but lean the seat back. :/ Oh well, love this damn car, enjoy it anyway I can.

[x808drifter]

Do you flip the headrest around to give more helmet clearance?

[churchx]

x808drifter: that won't do much if it's roof that helmet is touching. What would solve - lover seats, or closer to driver steering wheel that would allow reclining back of seat further back or removing roof lining.
Problem - none of these options go along lines of minimum change to stock (seat/steering wheel/interior/safety systems) and are cheap, in fashion of CG-lock.
Aluma007: i'd wait, maybe soon there will be wheel spacer by 949 Racing to allow putting stock wheel closer to driver. DDPerformance maybe might lower stock seat by modding it's base & mount.

[Aluma007]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

Do you flip the headrest around to give more helmet clearance?

hadn't tried that, but its not the part that touches...its the top of the helmet that hits the ceiling...so i usually lean seat a little back, and scootch down a little on the seat too. I guess its okay at that point since its like support for the helmet since it still touches the side a little bit on really hard corners.

I'd just like to have a harness that clips in to the rear child seat anchors and maybe uses the lap belt clip and something on the bottom on the opposite end. Thats what the takata looks like from the pics...just that $200 to $300 seems a bit steep...I could get RCE springs for that much instead.

[churchx]

Aluma007: i suggest not to get that harness. Using it may get very dangerous.
Problem stems from safety devices working as system.
Stock you have seat that can give and crumble in case of rollover, belt that allow upper torso to move a bit before lock, positioning in right place for airbags and so on. Stock also has wide range of adjustments to put seat/yourself at right place/pose for other safety devices to work right.
Then there is sport "set" - with multipoint harness you are fixed in bucket seats, whose back won't give in case of rollover - thus you need rollcage to not splash your head being fixed unmovable in strong constructed seat. And helmet, to not split skull against rollcage .. but both sport seat and helmet (and hans-device) will reduce visibility.
In most cases any halfmeasures in between these "full sets" are illegal on street and not allowed also on tracks/events, where organisators check/regulate/enforce safety.
Adding 4-point harness to everything rest stock can make you not positioned right for airbags, can increase head injury rollover dangers, and then there is danger of damage in crotch area due submarining effect. At most i'd consider only Scrotch 4pt harness with anti submarining system for track (unfortunately they don't make 4pt ASM harness for twins), and stock belt everywhere else, but otherwise right way is "all or everything stock". Full sport set of seat/cage/mpoint harness/helmet on track (unfortunately not street legal, so for track only car brought around on trailer), and all stock (+helmet/cg-lock for track) for only daily driven or for car used both on street & track.
Yes, stock harness hampers a bit enjoyment of track due not fixing well in (stock) seat (with less side bolstering then bucket seats) .. but it's legal/allowed/requires no extra spending. Don't go for track slicks/lot of aero downforce/for high grip & side-Gs, enjoy trackdays in more down to earth car, and in many cases stock seats & harness may do relatively fine.

[evomike]

I would worry about spinal compression using a harness like that with no harness bar.

[Aluma007]

cglock and seat belt pad it is...

Thank you all for the input.