2017 BRZ Performance Package Brembo Brakes Part Numbers

[churchx]

IIRC AP formula for ours is more street-friendly then Sprint/Endurance track oriented kits, due having dust boots. Still two-part disks though.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by ajc209

Sure there are. I have the Cosworth AP racing kit with 356x32mm disc. The CP7040 is a caliper designed for all year round road use but derived from a race caliper. It has all the nice features such as ant rattle shims, dust boots, aluminium pistons ect...

The massive disc means you can run and mild pad without fade at the track and you wont melt the dust boots as temps are quite low.

Tradeoff is it heavy and requires wide 18" wheels to clear.

Does Cosworth offer their brake kit anymore? Also... it's more for bling than anything :p Hence the reason I want the Subaru performance brembos haha

[ajc209]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Does Cosworth offer their brake kit anymore? Also... it's more for bling than anything :p Hence the reason I want the Subaru performance brembos haha

Not sure buddy

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Does Cosworth offer their brake kit anymore? Also... it's more for bling than anything :p Hence the reason I want the Subaru performance brembos haha

Fensport still list it, so possibly.

[valtore101]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

Here are some prices.

Front:


Rear:


Not listed are the brake lines which have a different part number and different "high flow" description in the name but same price as the original stock brake lines.

Looks like they are listed as a bit cheaper than this on Subaru's website.

FRONT:

Calipers: $699 ea
Rotors: $433 ea
Pad Kit: $299

Total: $2563

REAR:

Calipers: $649 ea
Rotors: $409 ea
Pad Kit: $240

Total: $2356

[churchx]

It would be nice for someone to make brake fitment template (as even stock they supposed to go with bigger size wheels then with "normal" brakes) and find out what type/size pads are needed for these to widen choice from aftermarket ones.

[gramicci101]

If you want OEM-sized Brembos, why not get the CSG-spec Brembos instead of trying to piece together parts from a '17 performance package? They're still 326x30 front/316x20 rear, and they're cheaper than the OEM parts.


http://counterspacegarage.com/produc...-red-gt86.html
http://counterspacegarage.com/produc...-316-gt86.html

[churchx]

gramicci101: for example due anal local MOT inspection rules, that allow only those kits to be fitted, that are provided as official option by car manufacturer?

[CounterSpace Garage]

Originally Posted by churchx

gramicci101: for example due anal local MOT inspection rules, that allow only those kits to be fitted, that are provided as official option by car manufacturer?

That's awful. That's like saying it's only okay to use the factory Primacy tires as the only legal R-comp tire for track use.

[prj3ctm4yh3m]

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

That's awful. That's like saying it's only okay to use the factory Primacy tires as the only legal R-comp tire for track use.

nanny state is real. so much for the Latvian economy....

[churchx]

CounterSpace Garage: that's not THAT bad if car is track-only, then one can upgrade to whatever one wants. Problem is that mine is mostly DD and i don't want to move on public roads on trailer nor i want to bolt back prior inspection stock parts and then back aftermarket ones each year like some i know that do. So it's pads/fluid/airducts/OE sized one-piece disks/very few locally certified brake lines .. or such "official manufacturer option BBK" only. I've heard, that in some countries it might be even worse than that, eg. in Germany anything non stock needs to be TUV certified, even if something like non OE sized aftermarket wheels though it also might be over-exaggeration of rumours.

[JDM4E]

Originally Posted by churchx

CounterSpace Garage: that's not THAT bad if car is track-only, then one can upgrade to whatever one wants. Problem is that mine is mostly DD and i don't want to move on public roads on trailer nor i want to bolt back prior inspection stock parts and then back aftermarket ones each year like some i know that do. So it's pads/fluid/airducts/OE sized one-piece disks/very few locally certified brake lines .. or such "official manufacturer option BBK" only. I've heard, that in some countries it might be even worse than that, eg. in Germany anything non stock needs to be TUV certified, even if something like non OE sized aftermarket wheels though it also might be over-exaggeration of rumours.

Not rumors. Basically, anything that is not homologated for the car is strictly banned. Depended on the violation and police officer mood your car can be pulled of and you cannot continue to drive.
However, I think you just must be smart. If you put massive wing and rocket bunny kit on your car, then you are K.O. until the first police patrol. If you put ET 42 instead ET 48 wheels on your car, especially rare as ours, nobody will notice. But yes, it is forbidden.

[ajc209]

I really hope it doesn't go that way in the UK! It might be one good thing to come from leaving the EU 😂

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by JRitt

I think the OEM Brembo option will be nice for cosmetics, but certainly not a great value for actual performance. Here's a basic rundown of the OEM Brembo option vs. our Essex/AP Racing Sprint Kit.

Calipers
The four piston Brembo calipers on the STi, Evo, Focus RS, Corvette, etc. all weigh about 8.2 lbs. These appear to be roughly the same in overall dimension, so that's the weight I expect.


Our AP Racing CP8350 weighs 5.4 lbs.


The Brembo's have aluminum pistons, just like the standard calipers.


Our CP8350 has stainless steel pistons.


They won't have anti-knockback springs, allowing for a soft pedal after a series of S turns.


Our CP8350 has AKB springs.


They'll have dust boots to burn up.


We avoid the mess of dust boots.


With four pistons of the same size (rather than differential bores), pad taper is a potential issue.


Our calipers have differential bores that help prevent pad taper.


The painted finish will fade, change color, etc. if they got hot enough.


Our calipers have a durable anodized finish that holds up very well to long-term track abuse.


The pads will at most be only 16mm thick…possibly 14.7mm thick.
Our caliper uses a 20mm thick pad.


Pads for the OEM Brembo's will range from $250-$450 per set.


Pads for our CP8350 range from $125-$250

Discs


The one-piece 326x30mm disc found on the STI weighs 22.5 lbs.


Our 299x32mm disc weighs 12.2 lbs.


Their disc will have likely have at most 48 vanes.


Our disc has 60 cooling vanes.


Their disc costs $85.


Our spare iron is $173.00, but will definitely last at least twice as long.


In summary, with our Sprint Kit you're going to be carrying 15 unsprung lbs. less per side, or 30 lbs. less on the nose of your car. Twenty pounds of that mass savings will be in the rotating mass of the discs. All of the components in our kit are far more durable and more suited to track use. Pads, which are your most frequently replaced consumable, will be about half price for our kit vs. the ones for the Brembo's. Our 299mm disc will fit a greater variety of smaller, lighter wheels, while still providing fade-free performance for just about everyone. The initial cost of our system will likely be higher, but if you're tracking your car you'd make up the difference in a single season of pad changes since you'll be paying nearly double at every pad change for the Brembo's.



If you're going cram a lot of HP into your car with big boost, we also have the Endurance Kit option. To my knowledge we have never had any FT86 customer ever fade our larger Endurance Kit that features a 325x32mm, 70 vane disc (only one or two have ever even faded the smaller Sprint Kit). Our Endurance Kit also comes with a super trick integrated brake duct provision, which eliminates one more part to buy. Our larger endurance kit will still be roughly 10 lbs. lighter per side, or 20 lbs. lighter than the OEM Brembo option.

We don't offer a rear kit, but rear kits on these cars are primarily for looks anyway. Our customers have been pounding our front-only kits at the track for years now without any issues, seeing flawless performance. Front kits are where you see the big return on investment with these cars.


Unless you're just looking for bling, our Essex Designed AP Racing kits are a no-brainer vs. the factory Brembo option. Unsprung weight, heat rejection, durability, long-term running costs, etc. are all in our favor.

Can this kit be daily driven as well?