So, um, why/how is our steering so gd good?! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Bluefire98 · 04-06-2019, 05:08 AM

So before I bought my frs, I drove a bunch of different cars ranging from an e46 to a mini cooper s to a miata. I did prefer the steering of the 86/frs/brz to my other options, but having driven the car some more, I gotta say, it's really freaking good. It's incredible actually. It is not the best electric rack I have used, but just the best period. Just so far of course. The 86 is 6 years old now so I figured it'd be a good idea to start an appreciation thread on one of this car's best qualities that has yet to be matched by the competition (imo). Hopefully some of you could share some insight as to how and why the steering in this car is so brilliant as well. I haven't found much on google lol

soundman98 · 04-06-2019, 10:11 AM

it's got a tighter ratio than most cars, which allows for more sensitivity.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 04-06-2019, 11:55 AM

Also smallest steering wheel fitted to a production car

Dake · 04-06-2019, 01:24 PM

At that age, just be ready to have to change out the EPS damper fairly soon.

Tcoat · 04-06-2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dake

At that age, just be ready to have to change out the EPS damper fairly soon.

Why? Not a rampant issue by any stretch.

cjd · 04-06-2019, 01:51 PM

Why? It was engineered to be good. And probably a little luck thrown in.

I admit, I prefer it after some negative camber has been dialed into the front - it's a little TOO light for my preferences otherwise. Trade-off is it follows 'ruts' and such in the road more.

Sapphireho · 04-06-2019, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

Also smallest steering wheel fitted to a production car

Is a lotus considered a production car? Tiny steering wheels.

I love the steering on the twin. Got even better with Heavy Duty Steering Rack Bushings and STI Steering Rack Bolts.

Ultramaroon · 04-06-2019, 02:37 PM

They took all the feel from the clutch and put it into the steering. :/

humfrz · 04-06-2019, 03:51 PM

Yep, the steering on my FR-S allows the car to go straight down the highway - until some dumb ass pulls out in front of me - and then it just artfully steers around them -

humfrz

Dake · 04-06-2019, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

They took all the feel from the clutch and put it into the steering. :/

Remove the spring.

EAGLE5 · 04-06-2019, 06:15 PM

Really good but not the best steering ever. Clutch feel? What's that? Seriously, Ultramaroon, you gotta come install this for me. The slave is just sitting there on my table, mewling at me.

EAGLE5 · 04-06-2019, 06:16 PM

The valet a the dealer stalled it in front of me.

Sapphireho · 04-06-2019, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Really good but not the best steering ever. Clutch feel? What's that? Seriously, Ultramaroon, you gotta come install this for me. The slave is just sitting there on my table, mewling at me.

You have to drive up to his place and sit on the porch.

EAGLE5 · 04-06-2019, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho

You have to drive up to his place and sit on the porch.

Vancouver, WA has many things I like. My favorite author lives there. There's a stereo company up there. But Ultras there, so screw that place.

04-06-2019, 10:11 AM	#2
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