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Old 05-18-2018, 03:25 PM   #29
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the battery may be 1%o fthe weight of the car, but you are moving it from right on top of the longitudinal COG to the extreme rear of the car so you aren't moving 1% of the weight from the front to the back. It's from the middle to the back. You are increasing the moment arm of that weight from the center of the car out quite a ways which will cause the rear of the car to carry the inertia of that weight when cornering. If anything, the car will feel more sluggish in a corner and will want to carry a tail slide longer and be more difficult to catch. You can't just add and subtract the weight, you have to calculate the vectors of the weight. Plus, like @bcj said, extra weight.

There's also the safety factor. Batteries often off-gas when they get older and the gas is hydrogen (boom) and hydrogen sulfide (toxic). You will be closed in the same compartment with this thing.

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Yeah, I was just estimating. Is it accurate? No. Is it something to show approximate scale of the change? Yes.

As far as moving weight rearwards, the rear of the car has the smallest radius from the center of the turn, meaning the smallest moment arm to rotate the weight about. Suspension comes into play here, but in general the car will rotate more willingly if more weight is supported by the rear wheels.
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Old 05-18-2018, 03:44 PM   #30
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Personally, it's not worth the time and effort. If your not in actual racing competition where 2 lbs can mean a win or loss, your just "ricer-ing" yourself.
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I am not in actual racing competition. But OEM Battery is listed as 29.6 lbs. So it is still quite something... The other option is to retune the suspension on the car, but then I guess I'll have to buy some coilovers or shocks (which I do not have). In any case it is interesting to sort the pros and cons of doing it.


PS: Though it seems that there aren't many pros then thx for all the comments. I guess I'll leave it as it is and wait for a fine tuned suspension.

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Old 05-18-2018, 03:53 PM   #31
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I am not in actual racing competition. But OEM Battery is listed as 29.6 lbs. So it is still quite something... The other option is to retune the suspension on the car, but then I guess I'll have to buy some coilovers or shocks (which I do not have). In any case it is interesting to sort the pros and cons of doing it.
Why re tune the suspension for the battery weight? The car was designed with the battery there and no doubt the engineers that did the work took it into account. It isn't like they built the car and then went "Oh god we forgot the battery where should we shove it/"
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Hi there @Tcoat. It is not for the battery weight, is for the supercharger install... I've read and seen some guys who do adjust their suspension after a FI install.
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Hi there @Tcoat. It is not for the battery weight, is for the supercharger install... I've read and seen some guys who do adjust their suspension after a FI install.
AHHHHH I see. Well that isn't really necessary either unless you are hitting the track hard. A street driven car should not be used in a manner where advanced mods are of any benefit.
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I am not in actual racing competition. But OEM Battery is listed as 29.6 lbs. So it is still quite something... The other option is to retune the suspension on the car, but then I guess I'll have to buy some coilovers or shocks (which I do not have). In any case it is interesting to sort the pros and cons of doing it.


PS: Though it seems that there aren't many pros then thx for all the comments. I guess I'll leave it as it is and wait for a fine tuned suspension.

If you are not racing the car, doing all this extra minuscule stuff is a waste of your money. You will not feel it outside of a competitive course. the extra load of the super charger is like putting a chick in your car. Pretty sure the stock suspension settings can handle that. you see those massive 250lb guys shoehorning themselves into the car? I really doubt those guys have to retune their suspension each time they get in.

Don't overthink it. you have a supercharger, just enjoy it.
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And a bunch of bags of fertilizer?

You just went onto about 10 different watch lists.
There are already bags of fertilizer around the trunk hinges. Poor car.
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There are already bags of fertilizer around the trunk hinges. Poor car.
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Snooze, what have you done !ately?
Tonight I shaved material off of a couple parts of the mocal adapter so it cinches up tightly.


Most valuable tool in the garage is that harbor freight belt sander.
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Tonight I shaved material off of a couple parts of the mocal adapter so it cinches up tightly.


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<11.95 parsecs?
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Snooze, what have you done !ately?
It involved a 5 minute video clip and a box of tissues.

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It involved a 5 minute video clip and a box of tissues.
And as per usual Snooze does not disappoint when he appears.
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That's funny.
At first reading I saw "as per usual ooze does not disappoint when it appears."
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