2013 Subaru BRZ vs. 2013 Volkswagen GTI - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

JPxM0Dz · 01-06-2014, 03:05 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiS1jL5Wtqg"]2013 Subaru BRZ vs. 2013 Volkswagen GTI - YouTube[/ame]

JS + BRZ · 01-06-2014, 05:11 PM

That sums it up pretty nicely. I'm coming from the direct competitor of GTI, a Mazdaspeed3. I feel the same way.

DarkSunrise · 01-06-2014, 06:22 PM

That's funny -- I own/track these exact cars. FR-S 6M and 4-door GTI DSG. Their findings are spot-on.

Down the front and back ~100 mph straights at my local track, the GTI is definitely faster. I'm usually up 3-4 mph entering the braking zones in the GTI. These cars might both be listed at 200 hp, but the GTI is underrated and makes about 20-30 whp more than advertised. I'm actually surprised the GTI was 2 seconds slower, even with the quicker DSG transmission.

But I'm not surprised they had to back off a bit with the GTI's brakes. If they had pushed harder, the brakes would have faded completely. I boiled my brake fluid pretty easily with it at the track.

They're also right that the FR-S is much more light and tossable in the turns. That's where it makes up its time and the reason I enjoy driving it more at the track.

BlueDubbinTDI · 01-06-2014, 06:49 PM

Own a 2010 Golf TDI 4 door DSG (on Drivergear springs, GTI rims, GTI shocks, and GTI rsb) plus my FR-S. I definitely get it no matter how different the 2 really are. And when I say different, I mean in every aspect of the word.

01-06-2014, 06:22 PM	#3
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,794 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	That's funny -- I own/track these exact cars. FR-S 6M and 4-door GTI DSG. Their findings are spot-on. Down the front and back ~100 mph straights at my local track, the GTI is definitely faster. I'm usually up 3-4 mph entering the braking zones in the GTI. These cars might both be listed at 200 hp, but the GTI is underrated and makes about 20-30 whp more than advertised. I'm actually surprised the GTI was 2 seconds slower, even with the quicker DSG transmission. But I'm not surprised they had to back off a bit with the GTI's brakes. If they had pushed harder, the brakes would have faded completely. I boiled my brake fluid pretty easily with it at the track. They're also right that the FR-S is much more light and tossable in the turns. That's where it makes up its time and the reason I enjoy driving it more at the track. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

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01-06-2014, 05:11 PM	#2
JS + BRZ Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2010 MS3 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,820 Thanks: 1,180 Thanked 1,161 Times in 597 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That sums it up pretty nicely. I'm coming from the direct competitor of GTI, a Mazdaspeed3. I feel the same way.

01-06-2014, 06:49 PM	#4
BlueDubbinTDI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, 2012 MCS Location: Jax, FL Posts: 1,975 Thanks: 943 Thanked 570 Times in 356 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Own a 2010 Golf TDI 4 door DSG (on Drivergear springs, GTI rims, GTI shocks, and GTI rsb) plus my FR-S. I definitely get it no matter how different the 2 really are. And when I say different, I mean in every aspect of the word.

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