Automatic?

[brianhj]

I might be getting an FR-S automatic. I know auto is lame but bear with me.

I'm coming from a 2008 Altima 2.5S automatic. I want something with a bit more power. I'm looking at a 370z because I want to move to a coupe. However, I'm not a huge fan of its looks. I LOVE *everything* about the FR-S more than the 370z except the low power. So I'm hoping there's some way around that without having to worry about breaking anything.

Since I want an automatic FR-S I want to know what my options are to increase performance. Is it worth trying to get more power out of an automatic FR-S?

[86_ZN6]

There are a few people here with boosted automatics

[Opposed]

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[brianhj]

I saw that... just wasn't sure how reliable it was. I guess it boils down to me being afraid that I'll blow up a brand new car.

[Kelbyat07]

Originally Posted by brianhj

I saw that... just wasn't sure how reliable it was. I guess it boils down to me being afraid that I'll blow up a brand new car.

If you want to make your future FRS faster than you better wait a couple years to turbo or whatever you want. In the time being, maybe add exhaust, intake, and all of the little things first so the car can still be reliable.

[brianhj]

Does doing things like this invalidate the warranty? Also, is this kind of boost noticeable when doing daily things like entering a freeway, taking off from a full stop, etc..

Also what's the deal with e85? Will I need to use that gas now?

[brianhj]

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07

If you want to make your future FRS faster than you better wait a couple years to turbo or whatever you want. In the time being, maybe add exhaust, intake, and all of the little things first so the car can still be reliable.

You mean buy it and then wait so that reliability is fully tested? That's a good idea actually

[Opposed]

Originally Posted by brianhj

Does doing things like this invalidate the warranty? Also, is this kind of boost noticeable when doing daily things like entering a freeway, taking off from a full stop, etc..

Also what's the deal with e85? Will I need to use that gas now?

Any aftermarket force inducted kit will void warranty. That will have to be your choice. Im pretty confident that a mild bump in power such as a small turbo kit (FB, AVO, FA20club) or supercharger (Innovate, Vortech) 230-300whp should be plenty reliable. No, you will not have to run E85 unless you want to make more than 350whp. Power delivery will depend on what kit you end up going with. Most mild kits will give the feeling of having a larger V6 under the hood.

[brianhj]

Originally Posted by Opposed

Any aftermarket force inducted kit will void warranty. That will have to be your choice. Im pretty confident that a mild bump in power such as a small turbo kit (FB, AVO, FA20club) or supercharger (Innovate, Vortech) 230-300whp should be plenty reliable. No, you will not have to run E85 unless you want to make more than 350whp. Power delivery will depend on what kit you end up going with. Most mild kits will give the feeling of having a larger V6 under the hood.

Good info! Like I said, I'm a newbie. So all this info still applies to AT? I saw someone in a thread say something about "gotta be brave to put a turbo on an AT." Don't know what he meant. That's when I thought I'm in over my head and I should just go with a car that's faster stock.

Any preference in regards to brand? AB, AVO, FA20club? If I purchase one online, any tuner shop can install it? They will do the tuning as well? I don't know shit about this stuff.

What's it like to drive on these turbo kits? If I'm not going to be going over 70mph at any time will it be worth it? I don't do any track driving or anything. It's going to be my DD.

[dem00n]

If i'm correct, the Auto is rated up to 400HP, can it handle 400HP for a long time? Well, only time will tell.

The automatic is basically the same auto from the Lexus IS-F, minus the two gears.

[Opposed]

Originally Posted by brianhj

Good info! Like I said, I'm a newbie. So all this info still applies to AT? I saw someone in a thread say something about "gotta be brave to put a turbo on an AT." Don't know what he meant. That's when I thought I'm in over my head and I should just go with a car that's faster stock.

Any preference in regards to brand? AB, AVO, FA20club? If I purchase one online, any tuner shop can install it? They will do the tuning as well? I don't know shit about this stuff.

What's it like to drive on these turbo kits? If I'm not going to be going over 70mph at any time will it be worth it? I don't do any track driving or anything. It's going to be my DD.

Most of the kits on this forum are all good quality kits. I might be a little biased towards FullBlown because they are a few miles from my house, and I know them personally. They are very nice, talented people. However, in your case, I would almost go with a supercharger. That is what I plan on doing. I have been following this kit from Innovate, which is fairly inexpensive ($3600 for the whole kit and tune) and very easy to install. Its also very limited in parts which could make it very reliable for long term daily driving use. http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/p...harger-frs.php Turbo kits are more labor intensive, and have more parts, piping and increase the underhood temps quite a bit. I don't want to turn this into a supercharger vs. turbo debate, this is just my opinion from experience. The driving experience will be the same, just more power! I don' know how else to put it. The supercharger route will be the best if you plan on never going over 70. It will greatly increase the low end torque for taking off and good midrange power. I suggest doing lots of research about force induction before you spend the money.

[Kelbyat07]

Originally Posted by brianhj

You mean buy it and then wait so that reliability is fully tested? That's a good idea actually

That or just add little things to you car at a time. There is no rush.

[brianhj]

Originally Posted by Opposed

Most of the kits on this forum are all good quality kits. I might be a little biased towards FullBlown because they are a few miles from my house, and I know them personally. They are very nice, talented people. However, in your case, I would almost go with a supercharger. That is what I plan on doing. I have been following this kit from Innovate, which is fairly inexpensive ($3600 for the whole kit and tune) and very easy to install. Its also very limited in parts which could make it very reliable for long term daily driving use. http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/p...harger-frs.php Turbo kits are more labor intensive, and have more parts, piping and increase the underhood temps quite a bit. I don't want to turn this into a supercharger vs. turbo debate, this is just my opinion from experience. The driving experience will be the same, just more power! I don' know how else to put it. The supercharger route will be the best if you plan on never going over 70. It will greatly increase the low end torque for taking off and good midrange power. I suggest doing lots of research about force induction before you spend the money.

Do superchargers have that whine noise? Yeah I saw that innovate supercharger, looks awesome. Man I'm more torn now than ever. Do superchargers and turbos pass inspection?? See, I want it to be as little maintenance and hassle as possible, but still have a significant boost. I can add oil to a supercharger but that's about as far as I'll go (besides the normal air filter, belt change, oil change of every car)

[jonbonazza]

Originally Posted by brianhj

Do superchargers have that whine noise? Yeah I saw that innovate supercharger, looks awesome. Man I'm more torn now than ever. Do superchargers and turbos pass inspection?? See, I want it to be as little maintenance and hassle as possible, but still have a significant boost. I can add oil to a supercharger but that's about as far as I'll go (besides the normal air filter, belt change, oil change of every car)

Superchargers have whine, turbos have vent. a supercharger is less power, but it isn't lost when shifting gears or letting off the gas. turbos generally make more power, but suffer form what is known as turbo lag when shifting and letting off the gas, where the built up pressure is vented to the atmostphere via a blowoff valve (which in turns generats the iconic "PSHHH" sound) Once ventilation occurs, you'll need to build boost back up from scratch. Turbos are greate for higher RPM power, while superchargers are more favorable for people looking for low to mid RPM power. SCs still make power up top too, just generally not as much as turbos.


EDIT: Turbos do have a spool sound, but it is distinct from a supercharger's whine.