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Old 08-05-2019, 09:19 PM   #1
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OEM Brake Caliper Piston Size

Are the front and rear piston size the same? I stupidly dropped one and now have to get a replacement. I'm looking at Centric with part # 146.40012 but they also have part # 146.40041. I think I'm supposed to get part # 146.40041. Looks like Toyota have the same part number for front and rear. They also look like the same dimensions when I put them side to side. Just want to make sure before I pull the trigger on the Centric 146.40041 part.

I think I figured it out. 146.40012 is for the smaller rotor calipers and the 146.40041 is for the bigger rotors they sell in the US or as the GT or GTS for foreign markets don't know which one. Bleh looks like the one I need is sold out everywhere.

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Are the front and rear piston size the same? I stupidly dropped one and now have to get a replacement. I'm looking at Centric with part # 146.40012 but they also have part # 146.40041. I think I'm supposed to get part # 146.40041. Looks like Toyota have the same part number for front and rear. They also look like the same dimensions when I put them side to side. Just want to make sure before I pull the trigger on the Centric 146.40041 part.

I think I figured it out. 146.40012 is for the smaller rotor calipers and the 146.40041 is for the bigger rotors they sell in the US or as the GT or GTS for foreign markets don't know which one. Bleh looks like the one I need is sold out everywhere.
So it broke when you dropped it? I wouldn't have thought it would be that brittle.

Sorry, that's not a particularly helpful reply but I'm definitely curious.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:07 PM   #3
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So it broke when you dropped it? I wouldn't have thought it would be that brittle.

Sorry, that's not a particularly helpful reply but I'm definitely curious.
Not broken but left a noticeable deep scratch on the surface. I rather not risk leaks by testing my luck with it.
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I was under the impression the fronts were 42.8mm and the rears 40.4.

The non-us 277mm fronts should still have 42.8mm pistons, that's the size in literally every subaru 2-pot caliper. However, there are more than one caliper manufacturer and the front of the piston and dust boot setup varies.

The smaller rear brakes probably have 38.1mm pistons.
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I was under the impression the fronts were 42.8mm and the rears 40.4.

The non-us 277mm fronts should still have 42.8mm pistons, that's the size in literally every subaru 2-pot caliper. However, there are more than one caliper manufacturer and the front of the piston and dust boot setup varies.

The smaller rear brakes probably have 38.1mm pistons.
Interesting. They look exactly the same but I don't know how easily I can tell 2.4mm. I would think I can tell the difference. Toyota and Subaru also gives the same part number for the pistons so I hope they are the same size.

Any confirmation that the 277mm front calipers have same piston size as the US calipers? If anything I'm 90% sure the 146.40041 is for the fronts if different size. I took a measurement of the front and rear pistons with a tape measurer and it was the same diameter. It was around 40mm or so give or take.

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I looked at Centric website and got the tech details for their remanufactured calipers and the bore size is 40.5 front and rear. Their caliper piston size is 40mm. The smaller non-us calipers have the same bore and piston size but other specs are different but they couldn't tell me without comparing side by side.

Either way the part I need from them is out of stock everywhere which sucks since the part is $45 from Toyota.
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I looked at Centric website and got the tech details for their remanufactured calipers and the bore size is 40.5 front and rear. Their caliper piston size is 40mm. The smaller non-us calipers have the same bore and piston size but other specs are different but they couldn't tell me without comparing side by side.

Either way the part I need from them is out of stock everywhere which sucks since the part is $45 from Toyota.
CL/FB/OU/Ebay/Junkyard and pick up a used caliper and rip the piston out?
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CL/FB/OU/Ebay/Junkyard and pick up a used caliper and rip the piston out?
Yea that's the plan. I'll just get a single caliper from ebay that way I have an extra piston in case I get clumsy again.
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The Zenki models should have 42.8mm pistons. The Kouki models should be 40.5mm
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The Zenki models should have 42.8mm pistons. The Kouki models should be 40.5mm
Ugh I give up on this caliper piston stuff lol . I just bought a single 2017 brz front caliper. I guess I'll find out if there's a difference.
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You could buy a different kind of caliper and measure them yourself.


also wtf do zenki and kouki mean
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You could buy a different kind of caliper and measure them yourself.


also wtf do zenki and kouki mean
Yea I now have a set of 2014 frs calipers currently on my car, a set of 2015 brz limited calipers, and a single 2017 brz front caliper. I think I have an okay sample size to get to the bottom of this.

I think zenki is 2013-2016 and kouki is 2017+.
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You could buy a different kind of caliper and measure them yourself.


also wtf do zenki and kouki mean
I don't speak Japanese so may not be exact but seems to be the common definition given when I googled.

Zenki = before
Kouki = after

It is used when talking about cars to refer to different versions of the same gen (like the 2017 facelift).

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Yea I now have a set of 2014 frs calipers currently on my car, a set of 2015 brz limited calipers, and a single 2017 brz front caliper. I think I have an okay sample size to get to the bottom of this.

I think zenki is 2013-2016 and kouki is 2017+.
Let us know what you find size wise. I see there was an updated part number but seems all years can still use the current one for the pistons.
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