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Do you actually care that much about better gas mileage? Yeah autos probably get couple miles more, but then again why not drive a Prius? It's auto with great gas mileage. We have an entry level sports cars, and sports cars like to eat their gas especially once you start having fun with them.
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Heh, look at my current car
I'm saying the common justifications for why manual are changing. That's all. My next car will be a manual, no doubt. I love them and have missed it while I haven't had it. |
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the aftermarket shift knob on my auto lets me hit the + and - at supersonic speeds.
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I have an automatic, no regrets here Loving it.
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Nah nah ..I see the appeal of an auto. But buy a truck or an elantra. Not gonna hate just *sigh* why take the best drivers car and REMOVE yourself from the experience by making it more automated. |
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You can certainly drift the automatic on snow or ice, exactly as for the manual. Heck, I can drift an awd Audi on snow or ice...or even a fwd car while using the handbrake.
Also important to remember is the automatic uses a lockup clutch in the upper five gears so is in fact the same as a manual when actually driving. That's why manuals are dying out, no advantages anymore. |
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The only time I wish I didn't have to use my left foot is when I'm super super tire. At that point I shouldn't be driving any car anyways.
Oh and once u figure out how to rev match and heel toe. It's just as easy as flicking a paddle but it's a billion time more fun. |
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That's not exactly an accomplishment. I can drift my Outback on ice (actually, I spent all day today on a frozen lake). I can break all 4 tires (Blizzak WS70s) loose in 2nd gear at 2500rpm (where it would be making something like 155lb-ft at the crank had I been at sea level, but since I was at 8500 feet, it was probably more like 115-120lb-ft). Pretty much every modern car can break even the best studless winter tires free on ice, regardless of drivetrain layout.
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I've driven both if I chose to buy again, I would probably say the transmission didn't matter and not make that a decision factor as I have enjoyed both and would not regret either. My $0.02. It's your car, not theirs.
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Thats not to say I havent driven my car where I got terrible mpg, but since its very dual purpose it mattered. So true. Just got a new one myself and it makes it feel less robotic/ mechanical, in a good way. Much smoother and compared to before. |
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It would be one thing if the automatic was a awful unit and regretting choosing it because of that. However I have driven the automatic FR-S and its one of the best automatics available in a market where many are indeed terrible. The paddle shifters nearly mimic DCT shift times making it feel very fast, many other automatics have to send your shift inputs to a committee before it acts on it and sometimes they don't. The car is only a tad bit slower due to taller gears but ends up with better fuel economy. I'm now used to driving MT so yeah I'm going with a MT plus its an aspect of control that I love, and on a car that's all about driver control I do want more of it if possible. The beauty of buying a new car is you do have a choice when its given to you, if you went with the auto there had to be a reason, as is the case with a manual. In the end you shouldn't have regretted the decision regardless of which one you chose. I can only see regret when you really wanted the manual but ended up with the auto.
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