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Old 10-23-2018, 10:35 PM   #1
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Another "Which Coils to get?" thread

As the title suggests, I'd like to add my own thread to all the others, so ill get right to it:

Price range: up to 4k

Reason for wanting coils:Titan 7 T-S5 18x9.5 wheels on 265/35. kinda need coils for this setup.

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: Daily driving predominantly, lots of spirited driving through yarnel, PCH, plus track days up to 5 times in a year

Desired Camber: only as much as is needed to make the wheels fit without rubbing on full lock, and so that the wheel is flush with the wheel well when looking straight down (i.e. i dont want the wheels poking out). Granted, I really dont know much about this subject, nor how much i need. But I am going more for performance than looks in this area, so whatever would suit the build from a performance standpoint (first sentence notwithstanding).

Desired comfort: To preface, this bullet point isnt a priority. Close to stock for the PP 2017, but i wouldnt mind going a bit harder than stock.

Drop height: around 1.5" .. I dont want to fully slam it, but I am going for this type of look regarding drop height:



Shout out to spicyricecake for his above build. He said its a 1.7" drop.

Now, prior to the communities feedback, KW V3 coilovers seem to be the ones everyone veers towards, and the ones im considering. I've also heard great things about RCE ohlins.

With that said, what coils do you guys suggest?


Another question i would have is, do i need anything else along with coils for this specific setup? rubbing is an issue, so is fender rolling needed? or anything else that i might be missing?

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What tires are you planning on running?

People typically opt to go with aftermarket lcas after coils to tame the rear camber.
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Tire choice is very important.

Do you have other suspension mods?

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265s are huge. What tires do you have now? I am running 245/35/18; A perfect size IMO.


I would suggest, as @tyler_win_photo has already, getting LCA to help with the wheels and tires you have chosen.


After doing some research and reading what others have used; I ordered a few other parts to "dial in" my coils. LCA, Adj. trailing arms, adj. toe arms, adj. sway bar end links front & rear, and a bumpsteer kit.




If I had that kind of budget, I would consider custom Olhins or KW3's. I just read this thread...


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130755






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As the title suggests, I'd like to add my own thread to all the others, so ill get right to it:

Price range: up to 4k

Reason for wanting coils:Titan 7 T-S5 18x9.5 wheels on 265/35. kinda need coils for this setup.

intended use
: Daily driving predominantly, lots of spirited driving through yarnel, PCH, plus track days up to 5 times in a year

Desired Camber: only as much as is needed to make the wheels fit without rubbing on full lock, and so that the wheel is flush with the wheel well when looking straight down (i.e. i dont want the wheels poking out). Grenated, I really dont know much about this subject, nor how much i need. But I am going more for performance than looks in this area, so whatever would suit the build from a performance standpoint (first sentence notwithstanding).

Desired comfort: To preface, this bullet point isnt a priority. Close to stock for the PP 2017, but i wouldnt mind going a bit harder than stock.

Drop height: around 1.5" .. I dont want to fully slam it, but I am going for this type of look regarding drop height:



Shout out to spicyricecake for his above build. He said its a 1.7" drop.

Now, prior to the communities feedback, KW V3 coilovers seem to be the ones everyone veers towards, and the ones im considering. I've also heard great things about RCE ohlins.

With that said, what coils do you guys suggest?


Another question i would have is, do i need anything else along with coils for this specific setup? rubbing is an issue, so is fender rolling needed? or anything else that i might be missing?

Cheers

If you get 265 tires, you'll rub on the rear near the bumper. I have 18X9.5 +38 with 255 MPS4 with -2 in the rear and I slightly rub when I am turning into a driveway or anything like that. To fix this, you will need to sand part of the bumper. I highly recommend rear LCAs because the lower you drop, the more negative camber you will get in the rear.

For the front, any coilovers with camber plates should be fine.

Also -- 4k for coilovers is a huge budget -- You can buy the Tein Super Racing Coilovers and still have money left over. 10K/12K springs are really stiff FYI.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/tein...l#.W9CTGHtKhhE
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JRZ RS1 would be my vote with your budget, for a car that is primarily daily driven.

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What tires are you planning on running?

People typically opt to go with aftermarket lcas after coils to tame the rear camber.
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Tire choice is very important.

Do you have other suspension mods?

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265s are huge. What tires do you have now? I am running 245/35/18; A perfect size IMO.

I would suggest, as @tyler_win_photo has already, getting LCA to help with the wheels and tires you have chosen.

After doing some research and reading what others have used; I ordered a few other parts to "dial in" my coils. LCA, Adj. trailing arms, adj. toe arms, adj. sway bar end links front & rear, and a bumpsteer kit.

If I had that kind of budget, I would consider custom Olhins or KW3's. I just read this thread...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130755

Good Luck!

to respond to everyone, my car currently is bare-bone stock (suspension wise). I have the performance package 2017 BRZ. Lookie:



Now regarding tires, i didn't fully research what exact tire to get, but prior to the 2017 BRZ, i was going to go with the continental extreme contact DW tires, but i know continental discontinued that specific one, and now has a one up from that. I just don't remember the name

If dropping down to 245s/35s prevents any rubbing without having to buy LCAs, i may opt for that route.

So to reiterate, if i went with 245/35, would that still require LCAs in the rear? or could i get away without those with that tire size? Side-note, any specific tire recommendations are welcome for our car. I live in phoenix, so no need for winter tires. summer performance all year round.

I am really glad i asked the question, because suspension has never been my forte, and reading all your responses made me happy, ha. Thank you all for your feedback.
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If dropping down to 245s/35s prevents any rubbing without having to buy LCAs, i may opt for that route.

So to reiterate, if i went with 245/35, would that still require LCAs in the rear? or could i get away without those with that tire size? Side-note, any specific tire recommendations are welcome for our car. I live in phoenix, so no need for winter tires. summer performance all year round.

I am really glad i asked the question, because suspension has never been my forte, and reading all your responses made me happy, ha. Thank you all for your feedback.
You could probably run a 255/35 and not rub... depending on the offset of your wheels. The point of LCAs is to correct camber, not necessarily to prevent rub.
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What's your rear camber now? Mine was -1.2/-1.7 stock. I think a 245 will fit, depending on wheel offset.

I went with RacerX upper real control arms and 255's on 17x9 +40 clear easily at -2.2 camber.

Most 200 treadwear tires (except RE-71R) will be good for spirited driving/occasional track day -- Hankook RS4, Direzza ZIII, Azenis RT615K+, etc.
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What's your rear camber now? Mine was -1.2/-1.7 stock. I think a 245 will fit, depending on wheel offset.

I went with RacerX upper real control arms and 255's on 17x9 +40 clear easily at -2.2 camber.

Most 200 treadwear tires (except RE-71R) will be good for spirited driving/occasional track day -- Hankook RS4, Direzza ZIII, Azenis RT615K+, etc.



Honestly I dont know what my camber is on this car as I havent needed to take it into a shop at all yet. With that said others have reported close to your #'s on the 2017 as well, so i wouldnt be surprised if its not far off.
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Honestly I dont know what my camber is on this car as I havent needed to take it into a shop at all yet. With that said others have reported close to your #'s on the 2017 as well, so i wouldnt be surprised if its not far off.
genuinely curious, if you haven't taken it into a shop how do you know that it's good?
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genuinely curious, if you haven't taken it into a shop how do you know that it's good?

sorry, let me rephrase. I have taken it to subaru for a checkup when i initially bought the car. I bought it in Seattle, and drove it down to Arizona, and requested that they take a look. They said it was fine overall. I took their word as i dont feel or see any issues regarding alignment while driving, so i left it at that.



What i meant is i have not asked for a print out of the alignment for the BRZ, so i dont know actual numbers for the toe and camber.
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