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Old 06-07-2019, 08:19 AM   #113
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I wonder if I can rent a Caterham for a month...
Too risk-averse for a motorcycle, but Caterham perfectly fine? We don't have statistics but I can't think having your unhelmeted head at bumper height for most modern "cars" (i.e. trucks/SUVs) who are barely more likely to see you than a bike would be safe enough for ya!
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:54 AM   #114
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I mean sure if I had FU money I would buy crazy cars or just rent them. Thing is to get to the FU money status you have to get to the point where your passive income is snowballing from reinvesting your investment income. And trust me I am working towards that but dropping $300k on a car is not something you do until you can't spend your money fast enough.

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Old 06-07-2019, 11:21 AM   #116
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from the site. this would be a fun toy



Must have been where the motorcycle term "iron butt" came from -


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Old 06-07-2019, 11:23 AM   #117
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Too risk-averse for a motorcycle, but Caterham perfectly fine? We don't have statistics but I can't think having your unhelmeted head at bumper height for most modern "cars" (i.e. trucks/SUVs) who are barely more likely to see you than a bike would be safe enough for ya!
It's hard to lay down a Caterham in a fast corner because of a patch of gravel. Plus you can always cage a Caterham. Try this with a bike:

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I was having a quick look at the front page of that website, being fairly impressed until I saw this:
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I mean sure if I had FU money I would buy crazy cars or just rent them. Thing is to get to the FU money status you have to get to the point where your passive income is snowballing from reinvesting your investment income. And trust me I am working towards that but dropping $300k on a car is not something you do until you can't spend your money fast enough.
I'm not talking FU money. I'm talking "Oh, I have a house and a nice car already and I'm easily on the road to retirement soon, but I can extend that retirement wait a year or two and buy a Ferrari" money.
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:59 AM   #119
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It's hard to lay down a Caterham in a fast corner because of a patch of gravel. Plus you can always cage a Caterham. Try this with a bike:
Risks in racing are very different vs risks on the street. In circuit racing in particular, I don't know if bikes are more dangerous than cars. You definitely do not have that kind of accident in motorcycle racing! You have very different kinds of accidents, the worst typically being the "high-side", but usually you just end up low-siding and sliding for a bit in your leathers and it's no big deal rather than going through a shaker with multiple impacts as in a tumbling car. In motorcycle racing typical injuries are wrists and collarbones. In car racing I think you are actually at greater risk for head and neck injuries.

On the street, for sure cars are "safer" but a car like the Caterham is definitely in a different league from most modern behemoths. Probably halfway between a car like the BRZ and a motorcycle.
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Old 06-07-2019, 05:02 PM   #120
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Risks in racing are very different vs risks on the street. In circuit racing in particular, I don't know if bikes are more dangerous than cars. You definitely do not have that kind of accident in motorcycle racing! You have very different kinds of accidents, the worst typically being the "high-side", but usually you just end up low-siding and sliding for a bit in your leathers and it's no big deal rather than going through a shaker with multiple impacts as in a tumbling car. In motorcycle racing typical injuries are wrists and collarbones. In car racing I think you are actually at greater risk for head and neck injuries.

On the street, for sure cars are "safer" but a car like the Caterham is definitely in a different league from most modern behemoths. Probably halfway between a car like the BRZ and a motorcycle.
According to the EMTs at Thunderhill, bikes on the track are way more dangerous than cars on the track, and according to NHTSA and other sources, bikes are more dangerous on the street. In the showroom, I dunno. Unless Caterham comes out with an EV, I'm not getting one anyway.
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It's hard to lay down a Caterham in a fast corner because of a patch of gravel. Plus you can always cage a Caterham. Try this with a bike:

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I'm not talking FU money. I'm talking "Oh, I have a house and a nice car already and I'm easily on the road to retirement soon, but I can extend that retirement wait a year or two and buy a Ferrari" money.
Yeah I guess by the time you are retiring you might as well buy whatever the bank will let you.

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Old 06-07-2019, 08:42 PM   #126
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those prices are insane! but the 3-axle dually gives me some ideas.
That's funny, because that's the vehicle I looked at most, all while wondering, "What the fuck would I do with this? I dunno, but I like it!"
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