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Old 08-27-2018, 11:29 AM   #197
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The Z4 wasn't always huge ass
161" for the length on the first Z4, that's 5" shorter than an 86. The new one is expected to be over 175", despite the shorted wheelbase. Most of the length gain will be in the tail so they can get weight over the rear end. In the old Z4 hey could get away with that short tail because the seats were practically on top of the rear axle.
no its not, its 170.1 in which is only an increase of 3.2 in over the E89 (166.9 in)

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no its not, its 170.1 in which is only an increase of 3.2 in over the E89 (166.9 in)



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Okay, that's a little better news! I could only find numbers for the gazoo racecar, which is said 180, probably for aero.

Ugh that's still 10" longer than the E85 though..
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Okay, that's a little better news! I could only find numbers for the gazoo racecar, which is said 180, probably for aero.

Ugh that's still 10" longer than the E85 though..
yup, the GR Supra concept also included the racing gear in the dimension chat.

yeah sadly BMW cars in general have grown in size since the 90s and early 2000s. but @Guff saw it in person last week and he said it looked good in both size and design.
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Seriously, who approved of this rear design? What a freaking hot mess.
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Seriously, who approved of this rear design? What a freaking hot mess.
What do you not like about it? I think it looks pretty good (I would not buy one though).
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Seriously, who approved of this rear design? What a freaking hot mess.
The same person that approved those two pieces of silver bacon under the hood. And I thought the lateral support brace under the hood of the Z8 was ghetto.
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What do you not like about it? I think it looks pretty good (I would not buy one though).
I think the tail lights are too small, but in general it's OK. Still don't like it for some reason I can't quite put my finger on though.
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LOL! Because its not the Toyota version. @#$% release it already Geez.
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Looks very Audi/Mercedes, not impressed. BMW manages to move farther and farther from designs that I personally enjoy. Give us sharp edges and boxier designs please... The e36 was too good :/
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to each their own but from reading all the comments from different blogs and forums; most people like the rear the best.

the number one complaint is from the front. people wished the headlights were slimer like on the concept. another thing is the hoodline, it should have been lower like with the Z3. and lastly that Kia grille...
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LOL! Because its not the Toyota version. @#$% release it already Geez.

Nah, that won't matter to me. Maybe if Toyota had used a different name but there is nothing about this that is Supra except marketing.
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