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Old 08-06-2014, 02:33 PM   #1
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How many of you Swapped your 86 for 15 WRX ?

As 15 WRX has FA20 DIT. The exact same engine in the 86....just different Direct Injection system, and a turbo.


I just wonder
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Old 08-06-2014, 02:35 PM   #2
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How did I miss this fact. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
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It was an honest question. The dealers here rarely has any WRX or STI on the lot, at all....I talked to the sale rep, and he said they have been flying out of the lot
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You are one curious fellow, Xti.
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So I decided to take a peek, since it seems like it'd raise the fuel economy.

1: Not really, 6MT is 21/28
2: LMFAO the CVT gets 19/25! What was the point of that, again?
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I saw the other day that Car and Driver measured the CG height on the new WRX at 19.5". Weight distribution at 60/40. Curb weight at ~3300 lbs. So it's not exactly a turbo BRZ with AWD, as you might think.

I know @thill made the switch so he can probably comment on the differences first-hand.
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Rather buy an S3. Yeah no manual, but why own one car?
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the STI...

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It was an honest question. The dealers here rarely has any WRX or STI on the lot, at all....I talked to the sale rep, and he said they have been flying out of the lot
The STI still uses the FJ25...

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I definitely wont.

My wife had a 2011 Corolla, and we don't want another corolla. Granted, the new subaru corolla has a scoop on the hood, but otherwise I see no appeal.
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I wonder when we will see people doing a OEM turbo swap from the fa20dit? its probably already happened hasn't it?
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As 15 WRX has FA20 DIT. The exact same engine in the 86....just different Direct Injection system, and a turbo.


I just wonder

So has anybody done a build with stock WRX turbo and Direct Injection Sytem in the Twins yet???
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My thoughts from another thread on the two cars:
Owned a BRZ and now a 15 WRX. Just some of my thoughts:
Pros for the BRZ:
- Even though both cars have the same ground clearance, the BRZ has a much lower feeling center of gravity. You sit low in the car and you really feel more connected to the road. The seats in the new WRX are higher. You get great visibility, but you lose the sports car feeling. BRZ cockpit is more drivers focused. Seats are better in the BRZ. WRX has more amenities and some nicer feeling materials.
- Light and RWD. Don't get me wrong, I love AWD in the winter, but BRZ is a more fun car to drive if you enjoy sliding the rear end out from time to time. For me light and RWD is the perfect recipe for a sports car.
- Handling is better. Steering feel is better. I just felt more connected to the road and the car feels slightly more intuitive to drive than the WRX.

Pros for the WRX
- Power. The new WRX has a twin scroll turbo and a direct injection engine. Lots more torque down low than the BRZ and more linear response.
- AWD in the winter. If you put snow tires on these cars they are very confidence inspiring in inclimate weather. It also helps with launching the car.
- A backseat you can put real humans in.
- WRX has amazing resale value.

Make no mistake. The new WRX is a much better handling car than the previous gen WRX. Much stiffer chassis. Sharper steering. No bodyroll. I like the newer engine better and MPG's are very close to my BRZ.

It just comes down to if you are willing to give up the true sports car for the sporty sedan that has more power and is more practical if you haul people.
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The FA20 and the FA20DIT are just as different as the BRZ and the WRX are. The FA20 is a high compression engine where the FA20DIT Is low compression. Not to mention that where the DI systems are different you can't put FA20DIT heads on a FA20. These are the old EJ series engines like all the Subaru people are used to seeing.
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The FA20 and the FA20DIT are just as different as the BRZ and the WRX are. The FA20 is a high compression engine where the FA20DIT Is low compression. Not to mention that where the DI systems are different you can't put FA20DIT heads on a FA20. These are the old EJ series engines like all the Subaru people are used to seeing.
Huh? The FA20DIT is nothing like the EJ series engines..
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