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Old 11-13-2014, 10:04 AM   #2143
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My air filter is angled slightly down. I wonder if theirs was not?
Regardless of angle, I could see the filter holding on to enough water that when the car is started it sucks off all the liquid in to the intake.
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That is not enough to cause this. you're talking about the water collected in between the pleats of the filter. Now if it was angled up it could have started to fill the pipe.
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That is not enough to cause this. you're talking about the water collected in between the pleats of the filter. Now if it was angled up it could have started to fill the pipe.
Correct, which could have been the first guys issue. Fireball has an issue of water being found in the intake and fouling the MAF, which wouldn't take much water at all.

This is all just speculation anyways.
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He still said water poured out of the intercooler piping. Either way they need to figure this out. I've driving in some pretty hard rains with no issues myawlfmyself
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I checked all silicone couplers and everything was secure. I don't understand how that much water got in there other than it was leaking through the hood crack and onto the filter.

I'm just hoping to god I don't have any issues other than my maf sensor being fried.



I'm uploading a video of how much water came out of my intercooler. It's quite mind boggling.

I was actually trying to think of a way to shield the air filter. You know with like one of those heat shields? Except for running water. May look into it.
Like this: http://www.carid.com/spectre-air-int...otcaAlhM8P8HAQ

I contacted FBM about the issue and they had said they haven't heard of any other issues like this. So I don't know. :/
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:40 PM   #2148
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Here is the video of the water coming out of the intercooler piping. I literally pulled it off and water poured out.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQQ3e2zXo14&list=UUj4_xKd6iCs_7hmVVFIRMUA"]Water pouring out intercooler - YouTube[/ame]
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:43 PM   #2149
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What's everyone's thoughts on these products?

http://www.knfilters.com/news/news.aspx?id=1235

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http://www.autoanything.com/air-filt...n-hydro-shield
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Old 11-14-2014, 12:22 AM   #2150
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Thats too much water to have been from the filter IMO.

Stick a piece of paper or dollar bill on the bumper then close the hood on it. Can you pull it out? If there is remotely any resistance when pulling then there isn't going to be enough water getting though there.


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know some have had problems with ice build up in intercoolers in cold climates, ford's eco boost have been having this problem as well as a ton of VW's.

VW's TSB fix was a drawing air from inside the engine bay, and a temp controled vaccum actuator system.

Ford's TSB fix is basicly a plate that covers 1/3 of the IC with a slight alteration to the cold-start tune. Basically they said the intercooler was being too efficient so by restricting airflow they were able to keep the air warmer preventing condensation. This was apparentely also caused by the cold climate combined with the EGR pumping wet exhaust gasses back into the system and the way the vehicle was driven. Apparently if you maintain a steady speed for a long period (such as a few hours a 70mph in 6th gear) or continuious airflow with a reduced load on the engine.

Just throwing it out there.
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I'll try that paper trick when I can.

I'm almost positive it came through the air filter. There was standing water on the black strip that bolts the front bumper down. It even has a slight bit of rust around where the bolts bolt down. The holes that are right there where those bolts are are right above the air filter.

I'm not just talking wet either. It was standing water sitting on that area. Like a little puddle.

Next time your car has been sitting outside during a heavy rain or storm, go out and open your hood and see if there is any water right there along that strip.

If you run your hand along that black strip while the hood is closed, you'll feel that it goes down on the left and right sides slightly. Right above where the filter sits.

I wish I could describe that better.
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Old 11-14-2014, 01:06 AM   #2152
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No clue how it happend, I was driving Saturday while it was raining but it was rain....so what. It ran fine no problems what so ever, shut down as usual idled down the driveway. Let it cool for a few seconds and then off. Didn't drive it Sunday (it poured off and on all day) then went to go to work Monday morning and it cranked over 2 Mby 3 times and stopped I hit the key again and it didn't even turn.

Got home started to pull it apart when I pulled the intake pipe off the throttle body atleast 1 qt of water ran out of it. Pulled the plugs spun the engine till it seemed all the water was out. Ran it with the charge pipe unhooked and it was knocking like crazy and there was all kinds of water coming out of the intercooler outlet pipe. It is straight water no color no smell no taste have had 3 different people agree on that.


-,- parked it Saturday it sat outside in the rain hood down and all, then the charge pipe was filled with water....
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Sounds exactly like my story.
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Sounds exactly like my story.

I've been thinking about it... If you take an intercooler and pressure wash it. Will it accumulate the water. If yes, then the problem is obvious. If no, then either the clamps are not tighten and little water dissipated in it.


Other option, water got in the air filter through the hood cracks or from under the car.


Do you have you factory underbody?
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