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Old 07-31-2012, 09:00 AM   #29
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How about the TRD filter?
Good call. We'll add it to the list.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:03 AM   #30
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Currently we are only missing the APEXi, and the aFe Dry Element. We should have those done in a week or so. Those two filters were a bit behind on the UPS truck.

As more come out we'll keep this thread updated with their data.

Thanx, i think i might pick up the hks since its the cheapest and yielded the same results as the rest. Cant go wrong with a better throttle for 35 bucks
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:14 AM   #31
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Currently we are only missing the APEXi, and the aFe Dry Element. We should have those done in a week or so. Those two filters were a bit behind on the UPS truck.

As more come out we'll keep this thread updated with their data.
Do you mean the aFE oiled filter? I'll be interested to see the results since it is supposed to flow quite a bit more than their dry one.

The K&N actually looks like it has the best overall curve out of these 3, the others have the quick torque hit after the dip but at 5K the K&N looks to make slightly more torque and it makes more peak HP. But all within the margin of error so it's hard to really pick any kind of "winner"
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Do you mean the aFE oiled filter? I'll be interested to see the results since it is supposed to flow quite a bit more than their dry one.

The K&N actually looks like it has the best overall curve out of these 3, the others have the quick torque hit after the dip but at 5K the K&N looks to make slightly more torque and it makes more peak HP.
You're correct, Oiled aFe to be tested yet. Have a couple sitting on the shelf just waiting on the APEXi to arrive.

I was a bit surprised myself by the K&N, and to be honest all 4 of us there that day expected 0 gains across the board. So the results to us were interesting as well.
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Other tuners saw zero gains without any filter. I dont think 5 is reasonable at all.
You can take the results anyway you want. As stated before, we have nothing to gain here and were looking for cut and dry dyno results. We got the car strapped down, up to operating temperature, and started doing pulls. In-between runs, the only thing changed were the filters. Cut, dry, and really simple.

Here is some food for thought, as well. Do you think other tuners would have you buy a $60 drop-in filter or a $350 intake system?? (rhetorical, not looking for a discussion here)

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Old 07-31-2012, 09:35 AM   #34
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Is this 5 wheel hp?
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i placed my order : D...now to find some parts for my custom intake and some paint so that i can make everything look purdy
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:44 AM   #36
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Is this 5 wheel hp?
Allegedly, yes.

Each dyno, each car, and each days temperatures / humidity are different and different results will likely occur.
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Does these filter make the car run any smoother in the higher rpms?
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Allegedly, yes.

Each dyno, each car, and each days temperatures / humidity are different and different results will likely occur.
Also, to add to that, this is PEAK hp. The point in which maximum hp was reached, which is high in the rpm range where the engine is needing the most air. Not a 5hp increase across the powerband.
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How about a run with no filter?
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Other tuners saw zero gains without any filter. I dont think 5 is reasonable at all.
If you go ahead and read the thread about the tuners that ran without filter for no gain, you would find that one of them, found there was gain with a drop in filter even though there was no gain without a filter.
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How about a run with no filter?

Are you serious?
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If you go ahead and read the thread about the tuners that ran without filter for no gain, you would find that one of them, found there was gain with a drop in filter even though there was no gain without a filter.
Sometimes it's better to have some restriction to increase the speed of flow. It's like if you pinch the tip of a water hose the water flows faster.
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