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[mines13]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

You are still missing part of the point here. It is not the fact that there are no numbers yet....

It is the fact of missed dates once, twice, etc. and no explanation for it. Hey, shit happens to anyone and on every business. They just need to be real; come in and say, " Hey guys, sorry for missing the set date, we ran into some issues and have moved out the official Dyno day. Will update later when we have a set date".

That simple statement, without sharing anything, would have been more than enough to most people. It shows they care about the customers who were eagerly waiting for the product information. It's that simple really.

I'm SURE they do care about the customers waiting for their product, but they have not handled it well. I am also sure once it is released, (even though they have already lost some sales here and there because of all this ordeal), if the kit produces good numbers it will sell like hot cakes.

You mean exactly like this post from 3.8.13?

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[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by mines13

You mean exactly like this post from 3.8.13? .................

Well yeah, just like that one. BUT, it should have happened quickly after the first missed date and not have any more missed dates.......

But the way it happened was, several missed dates and a good amount of time after that, the aforementioned post 3-8-13

[King Tut]

The prodigal son has returned. Shall I slay the fatted calf, and shall we rejoice? Shall we look for a Q3 or Q4 ship date for the Stage 1 kit?

[mines13]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Well yeah, just like that one. BUT, it should have happened quickly after the first missed date and not have any more missed dates.......

But the way it happened was, several missed dates and a good amount of time after that, the aforementioned post 3-8-13

No, there has not been any other specific release date mentioned by Innovate after that post. I sure hope it happens sooner rather then later, but as other posters have mentioned it is better for the kit to be "right" then for it to be available "right now". :happy0180:

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by mines13

No, there has not been any other specific release date mentioned by Innovate after that post. I sure hope it happens sooner rather then later, but as other posters have mentioned it is better for the kit to be "right" then for it to be available "right now". :happy0180:

I'm not talking about a release date. It was about "numbers will be release this date", "Dyno will be done this date" and boom, missed dates again and again. Empty promises and with no explanation or posts about it for weeks.

But that's fine. I am not here to rehash the whole ordeal for the millionth time. But please, don't try and cover it like it didn't happen because it did. It was in youtube comments, it was in posts in the forum. Several forums members lived through it in closed threads.

[sw20kosh]

Sportsguy, lets not turn this thread upside down.:happy0180:

They don't have a big forum presence.

That being said, they are extremely friendly, excited for this application to be in the hands of community members, and open about the progress of the kit when talking to them in person.

Maybe @robispec will give a glimpse into what this kit feels like as he got to drive the innovate car on the track.

I did get a ride in @jdzumwalt 's vortech'd 86 and .... I am sold on FI. This car with 20-30% more torque is just perfect. I have video of him pulling away hard from me on the straights I can upload later. It's awesome!

[King Tut]

Is it alright if I call you Innovategmhooker?

[killerkid08]

Originally Posted by mrk1

I cant argue at all with missing a date. However as a company would you rather have people get cranky over not have a number or people be pissed when there is a issue with a product due to it being rushed to market. I like to believe people are honest and think Innovate has a good reason for the "delay", if they choose to share the reason is up to them.

Sounds like someone needs better engineers and PR.

[DavidV]

Were they running the intercooler? From my understanding, the intercooler was not doing exactly what they had expected from it (before they went MIA) and we havent had any news about Stg 1/ stg 2 differences etc in more than a long time.

If only John was still posting teaser videos from his time tuning with them -_-

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Is it alright if I call you Innovategmhooker?

Oh boy.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by DavidV

Were they running the intercooler? From my understanding, the intercooler was not doing exactly what they had expected from it (before they went MIA) and we havent had any news about Stg 1/ stg 2 differences etc in more than a long time.

If only John was still posting teaser videos from his time tuning with them -_-

Non intercooled 5 psi base kit.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Sonolin

All the vendors should get together, and do a track test with the Innovative Supercharger, Vortech Supercharger, AVO turbocharger, Full Blown turbocharger, Accelerated Performance turbo, new PTuning turbocharger, and FA20club turbo.

That's something I'd pay to see

I'll volunteer to drive...

[King Tut]

I'll volunteer my car...

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Sportsguy, lets not turn this thread upside down.:happy0180:

They don't have a big forum presence.

That being said, they are extremely friendly, excited for this application to be in the hands of community members, and open about the progress of the kit when talking to them in person.

Maybe @robispec will give a glimpse into what this kit feels like as he got to drive the innovate car on the track.

I did get a ride in @jdzumwalt 's vortech'd 86 and .... I am sold on FI. This car with 20-30% more torque is just perfect. I have video of him pulling away hard from me on the straights I can upload later. It's awesome!

no love