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Dr. BRZ · 11-14-2017, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds

Would you happen to be running aftermarket wheels and/or tires? Was it a hot day? Ots tune or custom? Catback, intake stuff, and pulleys aren't going to make much difference compared to just headers anyway.

Unless you are aware of all this and being sarcastic, in which case it didn't work...

I did not have aftermarket wheels/tires. It wasnt a hot day, it was a cool day. Im on the oft el stage 2 e85 tune so yeah ots tune. Yes, i know lightweight accessories cant be measured in hp.

mav1178 · 11-14-2017, 09:28 PM

just got word back from Japan on this kit, around $3000-3500 MSRP in US.

Waiting to see if the ECU tune is a requirement or not. Most likely not but need to make sure.

mav1178 · 11-15-2017, 01:24 PM

SARD Japan replied, said that the ITB setup can be sold without the tune. They would offer it "as-is" with no warranty if a tune is not purchased, however they will try to support end user as much as they can.

Given that the two (SARD and Greddy) are the same price, it may be worthwhile to consider additional factors like warranty and product support. SARD is a top brand but they are in the same realm as Fujitsubo, they don't have direct support in overseas markets such as North America.

weederr33 · 11-15-2017, 02:11 PM

I'd be very curious to know how these would sound.

mav1178 · 11-15-2017, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33

I'd be very curious to know how these would sound.

A rough idea of what it will sound like from a kit made 2 years ago by a different company.

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weederr33 · 11-15-2017, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178

A rough idea of what it will sound like from a kit made 2 years ago by a different company.

In before no gains. Jk!
Edit. Sounds pretty sweet!

Shady195 · 11-15-2017, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178

A rough idea of what it will sound like from a kit made 2 years ago by a different company.

Definitely gives it a unique sound.

LOLS2K · 11-15-2017, 05:43 PM

Sounds wild. Too bad no gainz

Andyxin · 11-16-2017, 11:46 PM

I have waited for this ITB kit since SARD announced it at the beginning of this year. SARD said it would launch around March....and it's November now.....At least it proves SARD invested time and money in it....

By the way, the dyno posted by CSG Mike that 45hp gain because of tune and itb does make me laugh for 5 miuntes.

cyde01 · 11-18-2017, 02:05 AM

It's amazing to me that they can even run this with just a tune. I guess if you got rid of the plenum and intake completely and just ran velocity stacks you'd need a standalone for sure?

mav1178 · 11-20-2017, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01

It's amazing to me that they can even run this with just a tune.

A lot of cars can "run" without a tune.

I disconnected the airbox of an Impreza over the weekend to clean it, then had to move the car down the driveway. It started fine and idled normal with the airbox and MAF disconnected completely. I was also able to rev it.

Just because it runs doesn't mean it runs well. As for the tune, why not? All the air after the MAF is metered, just the distance between throttle body and injectors is a lot shorter.

-alex

cyde01 · 11-20-2017, 07:01 PM

It was just a comment on how back in the days adding an ITB setup meant adding a standalone ecu was a requirement for it to run well. Seems we've come a long way since then.

11-15-2017, 02:11 PM	#116
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11-15-2017, 05:43 PM	#120
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11-16-2017, 11:46 PM	#121
Andyxin Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2017 BRZ WR blue PP Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 50 Thanks: 41 Thanked 17 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have waited for this ITB kit since SARD announced it at the beginning of this year. SARD said it would launch around March....and it's November now.....At least it proves SARD invested time and money in it.... By the way, the dyno posted by CSG Mike that 45hp gain because of tune and itb does make me laugh for 5 miuntes. Last edited by Andyxin; 11-17-2017 at 12:04 AM.

11-20-2017, 07:01 PM	#124
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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	just got word back from Japan on this kit, around $3000-3500 MSRP in US. Waiting to see if the ECU tune is a requirement or not. Most likely not but need to make sure.

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	SARD Japan replied, said that the ITB setup can be sold without the tune. They would offer it "as-is" with no warranty if a tune is not purchased, however they will try to support end user as much as they can. Given that the two (SARD and Greddy) are the same price, it may be worthwhile to consider additional factors like warranty and product support. SARD is a top brand but they are in the same realm as Fujitsubo, they don't have direct support in overseas markets such as North America.

11-18-2017, 02:05 AM	#122
cyde01 ft86club resident b-boy Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Yamaha R3, moonslate 2018 GT Black Location: LA Area So Cal Posts: 1,214 Thanks: 142 Thanked 208 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's amazing to me that they can even run this with just a tune. I guess if you got rid of the plenum and intake completely and just ran velocity stacks you'd need a standalone for sure?

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