Edelbrock E-force Owner's thread and FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions)

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by MicheleAbbate

Check all your injector plugs. Make sure all of the prongs are straight and not bent.

I was stating that if you smoked the PCV system twice for hours and everything is clamped, and they keep saying it's a PCV leak it's not very helpful. It's possible fueling/tuning is the issue.

I'd request more info on why they think it's PCV and not something else before tearing everything apart. If I had a dollar for everytime a tuner asked me about PCV leaks, including Delicious I could buy an FI kit by now.

[Lunatic]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

I was stating that if you smoked the PCV system twice for hours and everything is clamped, and they keep saying it's a PCV leak it's not very helpful. It's possible fueling/tuning is the issue.

I'd request more info on why they think it's PCV and not something else before tearing everything apart. If I had a dollar for everytime a tuner asked me about PCV leaks, including Delicious I could buy an FI kit by now.

Zach at Delicious Tuning says my manifold pressure should be .32 at idle. It's .41 which if I'm understanding him right is showing lean therefore the edu is compensating by making the mixture rich.

[Lunatic]

Anyone that has personally installed the Edelbrock supercharger on a automatic car will you please pm me.

[86fun]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

Zach at Delicious Tuning says my manifold pressure should be .32 at idle. It's .41 which if I'm understanding him right is showing lean therefore the edu is compensating by making the mixture rich.

My MAP shows .32 bar at warm idle, the throttle being at 13.7% and accelerator at 0%, and RPM at about 850.


On cold start I get: .45 bar, throttle 15.3%, accelerator 0%, and about 950 RPM.


Did you measure that with a warm engine or cold? and what was the RPM/throttle% at that time? I assume you were in neutral? I have a manual, but I bet the values will be similar at the same RPM/throttle.

[jwvand02]

Originally Posted by Freude am Fahren

I thought it was 400whp? I thought 300 is where the clutch slips and fuel system starts to fall short, 400 the internals and tranny.

That number could be lower when you're making more torque at lower RPM's though.

That's sort of what I was thinking too.

I know for sure 300whp is where the fueling and clutch fall off, because that's about where I'm at right now. I figured there was still some room before a built motor was needed.

[paiceyfan]

So, I went for it and got the Edelbrock installed by Neal at The Racer's Line this week and the install went perfectly. No issues to report and a 630 mile road trip the next day.


Note this is a stock vehicle and so the install was not complicated by other factors.


Some have asked for driving impressions, so here goes...


It does drive like stock with a bigger engine...that description is very apt. The power comes in with a surge and not a thump, but plenty there. The idle does act a little weird when cold, but no stalls and it calms down fairly quickly. There is a little dead zone on accelerator travel, but nothing my brain cannot figure out and just give a little more gas.


Overall, I am very pleased as it matches my expectations and is a blast to drive. The issues mentioned above are small...very small.


I agree with comments that this is the one to get for the money...incredibly professional kit, easy install and I foresee little maintenance, which for me (trust me) is a blessing.

[Lunatic]

Originally Posted by 86fun

My MAP shows .32 bar at warm idle, the throttle being at 13.7% and accelerator at 0%, and RPM at about 850.


On cold start I get: .45 bar, throttle 15.3%, accelerator 0%, and about 950 RPM.


Did you measure that with a warm engine or cold? and what was the RPM/throttle% at that time? I assume you were in neutral? I have a manual, but I bet the values will be similar at the same RPM/throttle.

Mine were taken with a warm engine, in park. (automatic) 950 rpm.

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

Mine were taken with a warm engine, in park. (automatic) 950 rpm.

Is that idle a function of the Automatic car or the SC Tune? My stock manual stays at a solid 600rpm, warm, in neutral.

[aegisdrgn]

Originally Posted by Uplink

Is that idle a function of the Automatic car or the SC Tune? My stock manual stays at a solid 600rpm, warm, in neutral.

Idle in auto is higher than idle in manual.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by paiceyfan

There is a little dead zone on accelerator travel, but nothing my brain cannot figure out and just give a little more gas.

Glad you are enjoying the kit. You might be having the "dead pedal" you get right after flashing. With a 600 mi trip, it will probably fix it selft once you get home. If not, here's a little trick to fix that:

Put car on "Acc", press the gas pedal to the floor about 5 time, start car and let idle for a few mins.

The nice thing with this kit, my freeway gas mileage is roughly the same as stock (29-30 mpgs, used to be ~32 mpg). Wish I could say the same for city driving

[86fun]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

Mine were taken with a warm engine, in park. (automatic) 950 rpm.

Looks like the same as my manual car at 950 RPMs, around .45 bar.


I would think something like the fuel trims would be abnormal, since it would have extra air at idle if there was a leak and have to compensate by adding fuel.


The bouncing idle certainly is a very common air leak issue, I've had it many times in other cars due to leaks. Maybe the manifold pressure isn't the best way to determine if you have a leak...

[Lunatic]

Also my milage has gone to shit. Everyday driving 12 mpg.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

Also my milage has gone to shit. Everyday driving 12 mpg.

That most likely has something to do with the ECU compensating for the lean condition its seeing. All part of the same problem unfortunately.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

Also my milage has gone to shit. Everyday driving 12 mpg.

On 91?!?